lynzrand Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 I'm a designer in China, and Affinity products are gaining popularity here because of its low price and easy-to-use tools. It would be even nicer if we can get better typesetting results for CJK text, such as dealing with CJK punctuations properly (avoid line start and end while placing punctuations (标点避头尾), as well as aligning CJK characters in grids due to their block-y nature, see example 1), and having true up-to-down, right-to-left vertical text (instead of rotating text and/or squeezing multiline text, see example 2). Surely I know this is going to be a tough work to figure out all the rules when typesetting CJK text and implementing them, but it would pay back greatly by gaining even more users in eastern Asia (I suppose). Examples: 1. A paragraph of Chinese text in Affinity Publisher. Notice the square closing quotation mark (up) and full-width comma (down) are not directly after their contents. The same paragraph in Adobe InDesign. The line feed points and punctuation glyph widths are modified to fit the punctuations in line. 2. A paragraph of vertical text in Adobe InDesign. The current workaround to create vertical text in Affinity softwares. Notice the misplaced punctuations and latin letters. To be clear, I'm using Adobe InDesign only for comparison. I'm not saying that it's perfect. In fact, it's the inconsistency of shortcuts and gestures among Adobe softwares that drew me to the Affinity family. Affinity softwares are fantasic, but it can be more fantastic if we get these features. The source of text used in examples above, and also a great reference for Chinese typesetting:https://thetype.com/2017/11/13290/ The greatest myth in Chinese typesetting: hanging punctuation - Type is Beautiful (Chinese webpage) loyukfai, ashf, h-matsuo and 3 others 5 1 Quote
loyukfai Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Thanks for the post. Serif seem to be somewhat aware of this issue, but thus far have not found the urge and/or manpower to fix it. For the time being, the lack of proper support for CJK punctuations/typesetting renders all Affinity products unusable to Asian/CJK users for any work that involves significant amount of CJK textual content. Cheers. Quote
ashf Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 @lynzrandPlease add "line breaking" tag to this topic. Quote
Distill7 Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 They need to make their text engine suitable for typing CJK and CTL languages, especially for a software that's supposed to handle large chunks of text. Quote
lynzrand Posted June 20, 2019 Author Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 11:52 AM, ashf said: @lynzrandPlease add "line breaking" tag to this topic. I'm afraid I can't... I can't find anywhere a way to add tags to this topic. Maybe it's up to the moderators. Quote
ashf Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 @lynzrandok, probably tag editing is disabled on old topics. Quote
lynzrand Posted December 12, 2019 Author Posted December 12, 2019 On 11/24/2019 at 10:39 PM, loyukfai said: Maybe these documents from W3C can help Affinity's developers know what they need to implement: Requirements for Chinese Text Layout https://w3c.github.io/clreq/ Requirements for Japanese Text Layout https://w3c.github.io/jlreq/ Not all features are that eagerly needed, but at least the key and most demanding features for Eastern Asian typesetting like positioning of punctuation marks (JP, CN) and vertical text (JP, CN) should be implemented with high priority. They are the core of typesetting, and with even only the first feature (punctuation mark positioning) we can build designs with much more ease. --- Also copied to Loykufai's thread Quote
Himegoto Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 Also, please add vertical text capability like e.g. CorelDraw has. This would help a lot. Quote
PaoloT Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 To summarize: how is it, support for CJK text, in the current version of Publisher (1.10.5)? Paolo Quote
ashf Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Partially supported in the horizontal writing. Still there're some problems. The vertical writing is a long way to be implemented. Stocker.jp 1 Quote
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