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AD curves autojoin (snap and join at once)


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Hello!
Take a look at my attempts to join curves without line between them (I want to join two nodes into one, last attempt is successful).
Please! Make it possible to select type of join (two nodes into one node or line between two nodes). Or\And please make autojoin option (combination with snap and join tool) because it is very hard to do the precise adjustment for positions of two nodes to join them into one node.

 

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Snap settings "Snap to object geometry"? 

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8 hours ago, Pšenda said:

Snap settings "Snap to object geometry"?

Snap to selected curves is enabled (but I tried with snap to object geometry too, the same thing happens every time).
I have to join curves many times and every time I need to check is it joined correctly (two nodes into one).
It is very annoying and slow down the speed of work. 
Join tool isn't reliable and needs improvements.
Moreover, the join tool is able to leave doubles (two nodes of one curve that are placed almost in the same position).
Those doubles are prohibited in professional pre-press requirements.
 

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In my case, "Snap to Object Geometry" works reliably. Try to disable other rules.

Alternatively, try selecting the two linked curves (on the Layer panel), turning on Snap to geometry (on the Context toolbar), using Node Tool to connect the nodes, and Join on the Context toolbar (selected curves on the Layer panel merge into one).

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37 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

Alternatively, try selecting the two linked curves (on the Layer panel), turning on Snap to geometry (on the Context toolbar), using Node Tool to connect the nodes, and Join on the Context toolbar (selected curves on the Layer panel merge into one).

How many steps for pretty simple action!
Just take a look on how it is easy and reliable have to be done:

 

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4 hours ago, tmvideo said:

How many steps for pretty simple action!

But in AD this is done in exactly the same number of steps as in your demo.

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1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

But in AD this is done in exactly the same number of steps as in your demo.

1. Select curves
2. Adjust and snap nodes into position
3. Join nodes
4. Check the nodes joined or bridged (line between them) and repeat from step1 if bridged
vs
1. Select curves
2. Combine curves
3. Join nodes from any distance (100% no bridge line guarantee)
As you can see Corel uses two different tools, one is for join (two node into one node) and another one is for bridge (line connect between two nodes).
But in AD the join tool sometimes works like connect tool. Do you think it is reliable?
AD has connect tool, so why join tool does work sometimes like connect?

 

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When using the appropriate snap settings, when the connected node is changed to yellow, and the correct location is so unambiguous, the connection is completely reliable.

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5 hours ago, Pšenda said:

When using the appropriate snap settings, when the connected node is changed to yellow, and the correct location is so unambiguous, the connection is completely reliable.

Did you see my previous video with attempts?
I want to get answer from support. It is not hard to make two buttons instead of one: Join together (two nodes into one) and Join bridge (line between two nodes).
That's all I want from Affinity Designer for comfortable work.

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10 hours ago, tmvideo said:

I want to get answer from support. It is not hard to make two buttons instead of one: Join together (two nodes into one) and Join bridge (line between two nodes).
That's all I want from Affinity Designer for comfortable work.

Sure, calling for new features is fine.
However, you've certainly noticed that dev team does not respond to requests and that it takes a long time to replenish new features.
That's why I tried to show you a reliable way to connect two curves.

Note,
- when proper snap are turned on, the points will jump to themselves, and mark yellow (including the connected path),
- connected nodes do not need to be re-selected - direct make Join (can be assigned a shortcut key), 
- and the correct joining of the two nodes can easily be verified - node has two handles (the bridge has only one).

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4 hours ago, Pšenda said:

and the correct joining of the two nodes can easily be verified - node has two handles (the bridge has only one).

Your advices are helpful, thanks. It is fine for simple situations, in complex drawing with a lot of lines it will be not so beautiful.
But my request for Join tool options still opened.
Precise snapping requires time and zoom. It is not necessary for such simple operation as the nodes joining.
Two different buttons (and shortcuts):
Join together (two nodes into one) and Join bridge (line between two nodes) - no need to zoom or snap, just select two nodes and apply the required operation.
Simple, fast, reliable.

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