srg Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Hi, I have been using v1.7.0.106 and found that is in general much faster with a couople of problems that I found. First the program uses more ram memory that the v 1.6. Much more as shown buy my memory application Memory Clean 2. With the previous version and various programs open I always needed less than 16 GB but 1.7 with no open applications easily uses 20 and even more than 25 for the same size photo. Furthermore, using the smudge AF slows down to a crawl to a point in which every stroke elicits the colored spinning wheel. This never happened with v1.6. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 What is the problem, if an application uses the memory, which is available? Affinity products use memory intensively to speed up the workflow. (I see now, you have opened a similar thread in the Publisher forum.) Why do you worry about RAM usage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 As I said I never used that amount of memory with v 1.6 so I think that there could be some memory management problem. Also the program slows down terribly at every stroke using the brushes on smudge mode and I wonder if the two problems are correlated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 I never opened or at least never intended to open a trhead on Publisher which I downloaded but never used. Perhaps a mistake of which I was unaware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polygonius Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Did you activate metall in the preferences? Do it! For me all kind of "brushing" and most filters got a SIGNIFICANT efficiency boost. Even brushes with very small repetation works now much faster and responsibale. I do not care about the RAM, i see the much better performance in general and i´m happy with that. OSX 12.5 / iMac Retina 27" / Radeon Pro 580X / Metall: on! --- WWG1WGA WW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 yes I checked and the metal is activated.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted January 3, 2019 Staff Share Posted January 3, 2019 You shouldn't generally be too concerned about RAM/CPU usage with Affinity as we will always try and use whatever is available. We have on occasion seen the app holding onto the RAM but it should release it once something else needs it. What we do care about is the fact you're seeing a spinning pinwheel from just smudging. I've just tried it on a 1200 dpi image with a smudge brush size of 500 px and 1000 px and didn't really encounter any issues. What type/size document are you brushing on? Does it happen on any image or just bigger ones? Has it ever crashed as a result of this? How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 I have not used v 1.7 too many times and not kept tack of the problem so I cannot say for sure but what I can say is that the images I was working on were more than 700MB and I was using paint brushes on smudge mode. I can also say that the problem happened in images that had a noise filter and a displace filter added to it already. I will try to reproduce the problem and post again. In a similar situation v1.6 showed same problems but less memory use and it froze and I had to use the "force quit" option. I always report the problem to apple. I reproduced the problem on the image I attached as a hard copy when thespinning wheel appeared. I can upload the file if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 I just tried on the same image with the displacement layer inactive and no noise layer and the spinning wheen appeared again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted January 4, 2019 Staff Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 hours ago, srg said: I can upload the file if you want. Yes please. can you also tell me what brush and settings you are using too? How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 I need an addresss, dropbox?, the file is quite large. the brush is on the screen shot with the settings, not sure what else I can give you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 What about uploading the file to Dropbox or a similar file sharing service and posting the download link here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polygonius Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Another performance-killer is the "show brush preview" activation in the preferences/GUI. With a tablet and activation and a texture vbrush with random changes it needs much power, as soon the pen is in the "active" area (without real stroking). Deactivating the Brush-preview saves a lot of CPU! Do a test with the activity monitor its huge difference. Without only a relly stroke needs CPU, but if on the CPU is bussy the whole time the pen is near the tablet! OSX 12.5 / iMac Retina 27" / Radeon Pro 580X / Metall: on! --- WWG1WGA WW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 usually the AP guy tells its address in drop box to use. This is what happenbed in a couple of occasion with me. I am waiting for that if interested. I do not want to share my files with everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 9 hours ago, srg said: usually the AP guy tells its address in drop box to use. This is what happenbed in a couple of occasion with me. I am waiting for that if interested. I do not want to share my files with everybody But you are posting in a pubic forum and you want „everybody“ to help? If you don‘t want us to support, why not using a personal message? By the way: Should be quite easy to unpersonalise the file (blur, distort, change colors, orsimply using a different image). Pšenda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 uploading to a staff memeber is what I have done in the past for their suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 obviously this is not a problem on how to do something but a software problem. The forum cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasp Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 10:50 AM, Chris B said: You shouldn't generally be too concerned about RAM/CPU usage with Affinity as we will always try and use whatever is available. We have on occasion seen the app holding onto the RAM but it should release it once something else needs it. RAM usage is one thing but with the current beta I've seen some crazy disk usage as well - just like the OP I have been using large smudge brudges (including Daub's) a fair bit and with a single image of around 3000 x 3000 pixels / 8 bit and no more than 5 - 10 layers my machine hits RAM usage up to the app's maximum allowance (32 gigs in my case) and takes around that amount of disk space too. The latter is building up slowly during the session and only released as soon as I close the program. Is there a new way to deal with temp files in the beta? I've copied my preferences across from 1.6 to 1.7 if that's any help. Metal has been activated. I've compared with 1.6 side by side and it has not taken up any disk space during the session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted January 7, 2019 Staff Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 12:12 AM, srg said: I need an addresss, dropbox?, the file is quite large. the brush is on the screen shot with the settings, not sure what else I can give you. Here's a link to our private Dropbox. How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 uploaded the file. Hope it will arrive since it told me first that there was an error then I tried to see work on the file to see if the spinning wheel persisted (you will see a lot of brush strokes...) and it did. So I saved and tried to uopload againg and in no time I got the message that it was uoploaded. Could you let me know if you got the problem too? I think there should be attached in the file the history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted January 8, 2019 Staff Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hey srg, Ah unfortunately everything has come through scattered. Would it be possible to try again but zip the folder up first? I think this is why it might have given you an error. Once I get it I'll make it a priority to look at. How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 File uploaded zipped. I tried again to use the dodge and it took a lot of fast brushing but finally spinning wheel came and computer practically slowed to a crawl. Usually it takes much leswss strokes In the screen shiot you can see the brushes I did when the soinning wheel appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted January 8, 2019 Staff Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hi srg, From the screenshot above you have quite a few live filters and adjustments nested to the pixel layer all being calculated in real-time while you paint/dodge. Have you tried to disable (untick) a few to increase performance? A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Point is, if I disable the filter etc, I cannot see the effect of the brush on the photo and this makes no sense. I can also say that at times I have the same problems with much leaner files. Also in another (confused) post, I pointed out that the dodge tool also have problems, mainly it suddenly stops working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srg Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 I should add to my last post that I have removed the brush preview before trying the smudge again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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