kaffeeundsalz Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Hi everyone, I really like the new crop tool coming in version 1.7, but I have one usability issue when using crop ratios other than the original image ratio: Say I have a widescreen image of e.g. 16:9, I choose the crop tool and choose a custom ratio of 1:1. What happens is that the crop frame grows in size until the complete image is covered, creating big transparent areas on the top and bottom of the image. I manually have to size down the box until the transparent areas disappear. So my question is: Should it really the default behavior of Photo to introduce a border when changing the crop ratio? Wouldn't it make more sense to actually 'crop' an image by default (meaning: cutting away image information that doesn't fit into the frame of the current crop ratio)? I don't know if this has been discussed before, but it would make much more sense to me. Or is there a setting that I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manu schwendener Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 > That's the return of an old problem that was corrected in the AP 1.6 series. Yes. Works as expected if your original picture is higher than wide, should be fixed again for landscape orientation. manuschwendener.ch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polygonius Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 In this forum there are maybe 23 ask to the crop-tool! Approximately you would find your answer there! In #106 the crop will not be "destructive". You will hold the (often) big "frame". This has dis- and advantages... depending on what you what to do later. Half people like that the crop is non-destructive, another half would prefer that is (canvas)-destructive... AP is lack of OPTIONS, in #105 you could choose how the crop will work! Destruct, not destruct.... But in #106 its gone away. But you can (really) RASTER the image/layer... with the first "raster..." item in 1.7 (there are new 2: The first will destructive raster to canvas > useful for speedup filters, adjustmenst, file-size.....The other one KEEPS the image/layer > useful for later move/reposition... till #106 there was an option to decide, how its will cropped (rastered). Since #106 there is not. For me its not a problem, i crop maybe-3-times per session/image... and i´m happy to have the possibility to REALLY "crop/raster" the layer to canvas. Most STUNTS (like are-impainting (shift+F5....) or 80% of macros.... needs a destructive-rastered-layer... I have no problem with the crop.... (and maybe impaiting, but only if i RASTER this layer DESTRUCTIVE! Aslong as i can "REALLY raster" a layer.... i´m very ok with that. But i´m, power user, i know the traps... "... So this is maybe a new one of AP-Top 5, like cannot this or this or this.... (Top 1-ANSWER - Fisrt make your image as a pixel-layer....!!!). I do not know, why SERIF will not fix such annoying "bugs, inconsistent, traps..." ... i do not know... i´m ok with that crop-"behavior".. BUT: thousands and thousands... people of peple not....i (really) raster the laver after...and all will work fine agter this.... but yeah, its a big trap, now.... OSX 12.5 / iMac Retina 27" / Radeon Pro 580X / Metall: on! --- WWG1WGA WW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu schwendener Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Sorry Polygonius, but your post has nothing to do with the aim of this thread. manuschwendener.ch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaffeeundsalz Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 @Polygonius My concern is not about destructive and non-destructive crop, and I don't understand what problem people have with the Rasterise feature if they really want to discard the cropped areas. So no need for action here from my point of view. This thread is about whether the crop tool should expand the canvas by default, which I think it shouldn't, but which it does in 1.7 beta if the crop ratio is smaller than the original image ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted December 17, 2018 Staff Share Posted December 17, 2018 Looks like a regression from 1.6 unless it's by design which would be a shame. I will get this looked into. @Polygonius - The crop and raster issue can worked around by using the new Rasterise & Trim option from the Layer menu. kaffeeundsalz 1 How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manu schwendener Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 > I will get this looked into. Thank you :-) > unless it's by design Can't be. It's just the same old bug again: cropping 1:1 (for example) works fine if original is in portrait orientation, bug only present in landscape orientation. manuschwendener.ch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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