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A bug means something is not working as designed.

If the developers intended that clicking once on a page thumbnail would jump to that page and make it current, and that was not happening, that would be a bug (or a feature that had not been implemented yet).

If the developers intended that clicking once on a page thumbnail would select it within the panel but not jump there or make it current, and that is what was happening, but someone else thought it should work differently, that would not be a bug.  It would be a difference of opinion, which could lead to a request to change the behavior - but it would not be a bug, because it was still working as the developers intended.

Also, something being "common" does not make it right or even optimal.  It might be, or it might not be.  Centuries ago the common belief was that the earth was flat.  Common, but wrong.

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On 12/20/2018 at 12:21 PM, fde101 said:

something being "common" does not make it right or even optimal.  It might be, or it might not be.  Centuries ago the common belief was that the earth was flat.  Common, but wrong.

This comparison dos not reflect the issue at all. The topic is not about a scientific idea or theory but about the meaning of the word "current". Like mentioned before it is more a semantic problem than a technical: APub handles "last used" as to be "current" – whereas "current" in common usage means present, not past.

APub appears to mean "current" in different ways. For instance like mentioned in the APub help:

<< To add pages:

  1. Do one of the following on the Pages panel:
    • To add a new page(s) before/after a chosen page, select a page in the Pages window. The thumbnail that's shown as 'selected' is independent of the page you're currently working on. >>

 

Try this:

1. Select an object on a page.
2. In the pages pane select a different page with single tap. A blue rectangle marks it.
3. Hit the "add page" icon and see the selected page to be set as current by its preset page number in the add-page options.

This "current" can not only be different to the page with the selected object but even be different from the currently displayed page in the main window.

 

So there are 2-3 different uses of "current". And, yes, because they were designed that way. But this intention does not eliminate the mistake. (as every mistake was designed and programmed, otherwise it would not occur).

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If I open two different Finder windows to the same folder, I can have one item selected in one window and a different item selected in the other.  Both are showing the same folder, but they have independent selections.  The "current" selected item is different depending on which window I am in.

If I double-click on a document in one of the windows it opens in the associated application.

I can then select a different item in the Finder window and that does not impact which document is open in the other application.

 

The Pages pane in Affinity Publisher works much like this.  It is independent of the document view.  Selecting a page in the Pages pane has no more effect on the document view than does selecting an item in the Finder.  Double-clicking on a page causes that page to be opened to and selected in the document view.

In short, the Pages pane behaves like a Finder window, not like a scrollbar.

 

It is not a mistake, just designed differently than you obviously would have liked.

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1 hour ago, fde101 said:

The "current" selected item is different depending on which window I am in. 
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In short, the Pages pane behaves like a Finder window, not like a scrollbar.

In your Finder example, you show that it is possible to select two different objects in different Finder windows, regardless of their folder. That is, you can select two or more different objects as current.

However, this is not possible in Apub: if you have selected an object on a page, it will become un-selected once you select an object on another page. Since the current page print/export option may depend on the page of a previously selected object, a formerly selected page can be misused as "current page" in APub.

The bug lies in the use of "current". The fact that it might be deliberately programmed to mean sometimes current, sometimes selected, sometimes displayed in main window, sometimes recently used etc. ... does not prevent the error in the use of "current".

 

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1 hour ago, thomaso said:

The bug lies in the use of "current"

Again, this is not a bug, though it may be a confusing word choice.

 

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

if you have selected an object on a page

The objects on the page are not what I am considering analogous to the items in the Finder.  The pages themselves are.

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6 hours ago, fde101 said:

this is not a bug, though it may be a confusing word choice.

"Current" has a predefined meaning by default, in sense of human language. A different use of it is a bug like any other wrong information which is given by the impression of an UI. Otherwise, every bug would just be an irritating word usage.

 

6 hours ago, fde101 said:
8 hours ago, thomaso said:

if you have selected an object on a page

The objects on the page are not what I am considering analogous to the items in the Finder.  The pages themselves are. 

That's even worse: in APub it is not possible to select more than 1 page/spread as "current", neither in main window, nor in pages pane or any other APub's place. So your macOS Finder comparison about the ability to have more than 1 item selected = current does not fit to this topic, too.

Finally: if Apub really wants to export the "current" page this is a bug in code, otherwise it's a bug of UI-wording.

macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1

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