eobet Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I'm sorry to pile on here, but wow, yes expand stroke does suck: I've only used it twice so far (and this is the second time), but both time I've had to go in and manually tweak the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 30, 2019 Staff Share Posted October 30, 2019 Hi eobet, We hope to have this fixed for v1.8. This is particularly problematic with objects with thin/small strokes (<2pt). To work around this you can scale up the object a x factor (say x100), expand the stroke, then scale it down again the same factor. You should get a more accurate rendition without having to tweak manually. I'm sorry for the inconvenience this is causing you. eobet, transitdiagrams, debraspicher and 1 other 4 A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oval Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, MEB said: To work around this you can scale up the object … then scale it down again the same factor. Why not simply using a much higher resolution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsnaps12 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 @MEB any info of when a beta of 1.8 will be out? Weeks, months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I guess it will be out soon, given the fact that the Publisher 1.8 Beta is already available. Take a look: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/101015-affinity-publisher-customer-beta-180499/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianB Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, smithclarkson01 said: no reply? The answer is right here in the thread, just read above. ”We hope to have this fixed for v1.8.” And the beta of 1.8 will be out ”soon”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oval Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, AdrianB said: ”We hope to have this fixed for v1.8.” On 6. November 2019 at 6:04 PM, Patrick Connor said: 1.8.0 is many weeks (perhaps even some months) away from launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianB Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 @Oval Yes, it's quite reasonable that the period from first beta to the final coordinated release of 1.8 takes some time, weeks or months. Patrick Connor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oval Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 hours ago, AdrianB said: 1.8 takes some time, weeks or months 13 hours ago, smithclarkson01 said: when they are going to fix it This is why we had quoted an official statement of Serif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oval Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 … unlike to the statements of other companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddiomedecipher Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Expand stroke does not produce desired results. When I expand. It converts my plain stroke to a styled brush stroke. I had checked my stroke settings and I do not see what is causing this? See attached screenshots below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted November 18, 2019 Staff Share Posted November 18, 2019 Hi ddiomedecipher, Welcome to Affinity Forums This is a known issue that's being looked at for v1.8. Meanwhile if you enlarge the object a x factor (say x100), expand the stroke and scale it down the same factor you should get a more accurate result. A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddiomedecipher Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Thank you for the quick response. I tried enlarging and expanding as requested it provides the same result. I look forward to the improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oval Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 3 hours ago, ddiomedecipher said: tried enlarging […] same result simply use a much much higher resolution (without the need of enlarging etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddiomedecipher Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 @Oval How is a higher resolution going work for vector? Vector is vector. Requiring a user to do workarounds for a common task is not a solution. It's called a hack. Using a "higher resolution" does not solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oval Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ddiomedecipher said: How is a higher resolution going work for vector? Vector is vector. Because of the code of Serif. The accuracy of vector commands like “Expand Stroke ” depends on the chosen “DPI”. For example use 21893dpi if the page size is not bigger than (DIN) A4. 1 hour ago, ddiomedecipher said: Requiring a user to do workarounds for a common task is not a solution. Of course not. But we need workarounds since many years for that problem. And you already tried the bad workaround provided by Serif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianB Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, ddiomedecipher said: Requiring a user to do workarounds for a common task is not a solution. It's called a hack. Of course, I don't think anyone claims it's a solution. It is a known issue with some workarounds that might or might not work, for now. I went back and dusted off my old copy of Illustrator CS5 because I was not happy with the results of expanding strokes in Designer. But I accept that there are missing pieces in this still young software that mostly is a delight. And the good thing is that the solution might be close now, they are working on it and the improvements in 1.8 seem promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddiomedecipher Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 In my case. I was excited to try it out, because my employer will not pay for Adobe. While there are some nice things. I feel there are too many steps to achieve the same task I would have in Illustrator. I have ben using Illustrator for 30 years now. Typically I am open to change, but the time it takes to do things it too much for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zozzy Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I have a similar kind of issue: I'm making cutcontour pdf-s from really simple objects, still the pdf contains millions of nodes. The printshop alerted me that my files are not suitable for cutting. I was shocked when realised this issue. This software at its current state doesn't suitable for professional printing work. Waiting years for basic features? I'm working guys! I'd suggest develop first, advertise next. This software is so promising but we cannot wait years for updates! The vectorizer feature has also been promised for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInTranslation Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I was just checking in on this again and read the release notes of beta 1.8. But I still can't find any mention of this being fixed. Dear Serif, your software is great in general. But Expand Stroke not working is such a very basic function that it is absolutely not acceptable. I need this every day but I will never use workarounds that still give bad results, nor will I spend time for fixing it manually. I already lost hours of work on a logo that was completely unusable after expanding stroke. I recreated it in Xara and it converted beautifully as it should and as it always has. Also you are kind of hogging my investment into Affinity, not only money but a lot of time too. I still can't make the switch and right now I still prefer Xara over Designer every day. In fact, if Xara had your excellent rounding tool, I would not even think of using AD at the moment. I try not to be selfish, but I can't think of any single fix that could be more important than this. It's such a basic function, it should work before anything else. So pretty please, tell us this will be fixed very soon? Move Along People 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, LostInTranslation said: I was just checking in on this again and read the release notes of beta 1.8. But I still can't find any mention of this being fixed. There is not beta of 1.8 for Designer for Mac yet. They did put out a beta of 1.8 for Windows earlier because of some Windows fixes. But the latest info in this thread is that they aim to fix expand stroke in 1.8. You can follow the Mac beta announcement thread to get notified when there's a beta for Mac of Designer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInTranslation Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, AdrianB said: There is not beta of 1.8 for Designer for Mac yet. They did put out a beta of 1.8 for Windows earlier because of some Windows fixes. But the latest info in this thread is that they aim to fix expand stroke in 1.8. You can follow the Mac beta announcement thread to get notified when there's a beta for Mac of Designer. Sorry for not mentioning that, but I am on Windows. I just posted here, since there seem to be fairly recent comments to this matter. Also I thought that Win/Mac versions were generally always the same? In any way it needs to be fixed and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannaCecilia Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Hi everyone, just doing my first projects with Affinity and praying I could swop completely from Adobe. But - the first serious problems sadly already starting. Why is the 'expand stroke' not working with any brush strokes? Only the standard stroke? Or am I missing something? Please help as need this urgently for various client projects! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannaCecilia Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Hi Adrian. I have the exact same issue. Except - my ancient CS4 is not working anymore on High Sierra. Or you have any tips? I am really stuck with the mad Adobe prices . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianB Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, LostInTranslation said: Also I thought that Win/Mac versions were generally always the same? Yeah, I think they generally are more or less the same when released, but judging by that comment i linked it seems like they wanted to get some fixes for Windows related issues out first. I read the Windows release notes and as you said, there seems to be no mention of expanding strokes there, so that is most likely not ready for public beta testing yet. 2 hours ago, LostInTranslation said: In any way it needs to be fixed and soon. These forums are filled with demands that specific pet peeve issues are prioritized and fixed promptly. Software development takes time and Affinity is a small company with a series of applications for three platforms. I'm sure they're doing everything they can but it's probably more complex than it seems from the outside. The good news is that this particular issue is actively being worked on, as they stated publicly and showed screenshots of. That is far better than most issues. And they said 1.8 beta for Mac should be out soon. Until then, don't jump the ship if this is a showstopper (I use Designer daily but I have an old Illustrator version still lying around when I need to expand strokes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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