DRM Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I have a trial copy of Affinity, which I am learning to use. I have edited several images (raw and Jpeg) which have the correct saturation. However, if I save these in Jpeg and open them with another program, such as Windows 10 Photo, they appear far too saturated. I have tired to use "Export" with several different ICC profiles, but all with the same result. Any ideas how to fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Do you have the correct monitor profile in your OS? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRM Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 I believe so. I am using a NEC 30 inch MultiSync. If I go to Settings -> Display this shows the colour profile is set to LCD3090WQXi, which does indeed correspond to my NEC. Normally I would have assumed that display programs would use the system profile as the default. However, Affinity and e.g. Windows Photos would seem not to be using the same one. There is also an effect with PSE, but much less pronounced. However, photos viewed in Outlook emails and Windows Photo seem to use the same settings. I might add that the difference is not a small effect, but produces unusable caricatures. (I tried to add an example, but it failed to upload). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Size is limited for incoming users of the forum. Try uploading a preview. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRM Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 I have output a file reduced to 1024x600 via "Export" and size settings - gives me the opportunity to discover another feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRM Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 After some more digging, I find that the effect I see occurs for photos straight out of the camera as well as those which have been edited. Affinity and PSE show the images in a way I would say is correct, but Windows Photo, Edge, and Microsoft Outlook (I mailed them to myself and then clicked on the attachements) all show the images far too saturated. Thus, it looks like the windows products use the wrong mapping and not Affinity or PSE. Thus, although I deduce that the problem may not be due to Affinity, I would still like to know if anyone else sees this effect and/or has any idea what might cause it. I might add that having mailed photos to a friend, he also found the saturation too high on his machine. Curiouser and curiouser... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 And which do you set the color profile (sRGB?), same in camera and image, bit depth, etc. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRM Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 I have tried to Export images from Affinity with various profiles, but all give an identical result if viewed by e.g. Windows Photo. The system profile, is mentioned is set for the NEC. I have changed the system profile to sRGB and will see if that changes anything, but to take effect I shall have to reboot the PC it seems. I have also found that a previous version of Photo automatically "enhanced" images, and this effect could be switched off, but I have found no such parameter in the current version. (I am using Windows-10 with all updates). A suivre... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRM Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Changing the system profile from LCD3090WQXi to sRGB IEC61966-2.1 makes no perceptible difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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