Maggie Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 How can I make the pasteboard bigger? I often use it to store text and images that I'm working with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 As long as you disable View > View Mode > Clip to Canvas it's as big as you want. Just scroll up/down or right/left. dean shultz 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: As long as you disable View > View Mode > Clip to Canvas it's as big as you want. Just scroll up/down or right/left. No, it doesn't give me anything above. See attached image where plates are cropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Noticed the same. Objects can be moved as far up/down as you want but visible area is quite small. Only bounding box remains visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 That is very strange. The same does not happen with moving objects left/right, by the way; they remain fully visible. This only affects up/down moves of objects that are not on the page. Looks like a possible bug to me, that should perhaps be reported over in one of the Publisher Bugs forums. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avyclaire Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I am not able to see any block moved off page onto pasteboard. This would be a deal breaker for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebez71 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Look under the View menu > View Mode > Clip to canvas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrettm30 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 5/26/2019 at 4:30 PM, avyclaire said: I am not able to see any block moved off page onto pasteboard. This would be a deal breaker for me It looks like you are in preview mode in those screenshots. You can't see outside the document boundaries in that mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Bohn Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 10/27/2018 at 6:15 PM, walt.farrell said: That is very strange. The same does not happen with moving objects left/right, by the way; they remain fully visible. This only affects up/down moves of objects that are not on the page. Looks like a possible bug to me, that should perhaps be reported over in one of the Publisher Bugs forums. It's not a bug and has been discussed here. If you see my May 11 post in that thread, I compare it to InDesign. Since there is no clear boundary, it makes it look like a bug. AllAppsUser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jeremy Bohn said: It's not a bug and has been discussed here. If you see my May 11 post in that thread, I compare it to InDesign. Since there is no clear boundary, it makes it look like a bug. True, but you just responded to a post of mine that is about 7 months old. Lots of things are known now, that were't necessarily known then thomaso 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 21 hours ago, walt.farrell said: about 7 months old. Funny coincidence: the post which made this old thread awake, appeared twice within 2 minutes. Like an Asian proverb says: "Lots of things are known in a way that they couldn't get asked enough – No time to lose" Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Bohn Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 23 hours ago, walt.farrell said: True, but you just responded to a post of mine that is about 7 months old. Lots of things are known now, that were't necessarily known then Does it really matter? Isn't that obvious as well? Trying to get your post quota in for the day? I didn't go looking for this old thread. It was up near the top of the list and I rarely look at dates. I just see what's at the top of the list and try to contribute if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacey L Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Any updates with this issue? I'm still experiencing a 'cropped' pasteboard... I'm working on a one page document, and items on the pasteboard keep getting cropped to the height of the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Move Along People Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 - Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Stacey L said: Any updates with this issue? I'm still experiencing a 'cropped' pasteboard... I'm working on a one page document, and items on the pasteboard keep getting cropped to the height of the page. As a workaround you could use the bleed setting which influences the pasteboard, too: Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacey L Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 15 hours ago, thomaso said: As a workaround you could use the bleed setting which influences the pasteboard, too: Thanks Thomaso! This helps - not sure why we need a workaround for this though - as a user interface experience, the pasteboard shouldn’t be cropped to page size, surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Stacey L said: the pasteboard shouldn’t be cropped to page size, It's not. It simply has limited vertical space, because the pages are very close together vertically. The design is that the usable pasteboard is to the right and left of the page. If you choose to increase the bleed you are not directly affecting the pasteboard; you're simply making the pages take more vertical space, which pushes them further apart, and gives you more space off the page where you can put things. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAppsUser Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 A compelling use-case for setting pasteboard margins between pages (vertical margins) A (the?) use-case for being able to increase the pasteboard margin between pages (that is: vertically - as possible in InDesign) is when rotating spreads from portrait to landscape. Pages that already have artwork on. It's far too easy to lose sight of things in such an exercise - both on the page, and on the pasteboard to the upper/lower left/right. In Publisher, I find I have to either: Try to anticipate how much will be visible once rotated, and move artwork elements into that anticipated space. All guesswork and messy when the artwork is complex..... or..... Group all the artwork before rotating the spread. Rotate the spread. Then move the group up or down to reveal the artwork..... subselect > copy > paste. Try it sometime..... see how the lack of this feature adds to the tedium. Being asked to rotate spreads like this happens far more often than you might imagine. ("Oh great report, now can we have it as a series of landscape slides, thanks", "Brilliant magazine ad, can we now have it as a banner?") It's really painful when the artwork is complex (say some sort of flow diagram, albeit made of very simple shapes and arrows - think PowerPoint level, as in: basic but complex. Not quite sophisticated enough to need Designer, or some other high-level specialist mapping/graphing app, or justify all the link and external file management that then ensues.) It can be a painful exercise regardless, but not being able to expand the pasteboard between pages adds more pain. I really miss InDesign when this need arises. I work with a lot of simple, but complex info graphics btw. Workarounds I'm interested in the workaround...(using bleed)... but dislike workarounds because they become habits. I've known some designers come to me with workarounds on top of workarounds as their way of working... never ever good, always complicates things. Quote - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Words are crude implements, difficult to get perfect, easy to get tied in knots with, and often - usually - misunderstood, which is why 'tolarence' is the best word of all. The word "professional" fits us all - amateur, semi-pro, beginner, advanced, middle, beyond it all, and on....., because professionals are tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, ProDesigner said: In Publisher, I find I have to either: Try to anticipate how much will be visible once rotated, and move artwork elements into that anticipated space. All guesswork and messy when the artwork is complex..... or..... Group all the artwork before rotating the spread. Rotate the spread. Then move the group up or down to reveal the artwork..... subselect > copy > paste. (...) I'm interested in the workaround...(using bleed)... but dislike workarounds because they become habits. I've known some designers come to me with workarounds on top of workarounds as their way of working... never ever good, always complicates things. Just in case: The basic "Rescale" option in menu "File" > "Spread Setup..." can help to avoid some unexpected behavior when altering page dimensions. If you are referring to / used to the "Liquid Layout" feature in ID you might have missed the "Constraints" feature in Affinity. It is not a workaround for page format rotation but – like "Liquid Layout" – meant in particular for transforming a layout to various different aspect ratios. There are a few tutorials around, e.g. this one demonstrates the main principle of "Constraints":https://webdesign.tutsplus.com/courses/affinity-designer-quick-start/lessons/constraints Just a note to your current workaround: "move artwork elements into that anticipated space. All guesswork (...)" – to avoid such guesswork you could position guides (or a rectangle shape object) when moving objects before the page dimension change to visualize the common area of both (before/after) formats. AllAppsUser 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAppsUser Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Thanks @thomaso Good of you to chip-in. Yes, I'm familiar with liquid layout. 8 minutes ago, thomaso said: to avoid such guesswork you could position guides (or a rectangle shape object) when moving objects before the page dimension change to visualize.... I've just been using the bleed adjustment on the rotated spread. Working really well. Feels like a solution. Feels good to be working on the finished size, rather than on an interim rectangle (if I understand you correctly). I'll try your suggestion out of course. There's pros and cons to every workaround. And there's obviously a number of approaches to this. We're a creative lot! Thanks for taking the time. Quote - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Words are crude implements, difficult to get perfect, easy to get tied in knots with, and often - usually - misunderstood, which is why 'tolarence' is the best word of all. The word "professional" fits us all - amateur, semi-pro, beginner, advanced, middle, beyond it all, and on....., because professionals are tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It seems you currently still prefer the workaround (indeed, setting up "Constraints" isn't very useful if you need only a single switch, e.g. from portrait to landscape, but rather when a few different formats are required.) 20 minutes ago, ProDesigner said: rather than on an interim rectangle (if I understand you correctly) I did not mean to work on a rectangle but use its edges as guide lines only (> work behind the rectangle, locked). 15 minutes ago, ProDesigner said: I've just been using the bleed adjustment on the rotated spread. If you increase the vertical bleed not on the rotated spread but before rotation it may avoid that (ungrouped) objects get moved to a page above/below unintendedly by the rotation. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAppsUser Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 1:10 PM, thomaso said: I did not mean to work on a rectangle but use its edges as guide lines only (> work behind the rectangle, locked). Splitting hairs now? Point I was making was that instead of working with/on/behind/infront of something temporary, I'm working on the final document.. which I happen to prefer. Others may well love your idea better - it's all cool. No right or wrong to individual workarounds, whether you think of yours as a workaround or not. My view is that the InDesign feature negates the need for any of this. You're free to disagree. Quote - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Words are crude implements, difficult to get perfect, easy to get tied in knots with, and often - usually - misunderstood, which is why 'tolarence' is the best word of all. The word "professional" fits us all - amateur, semi-pro, beginner, advanced, middle, beyond it all, and on....., because professionals are tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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