jackamus Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Can I converted a round corner rectangle back into a quick shape after converting it into a curve? Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 22, 2018 Staff Share Posted October 22, 2018 Hi Jackamus, No, that's not possible (other than using the Rounded Rectangle Tool to recreate it again obviously or undo it if possible). Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 If I added an invisible object and combined them wouldn't this make it into non-curve object? Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 22, 2018 Staff Share Posted October 22, 2018 Not sure i'n following you here. If I understood you correctly in the first post you asked if it was possible to (re)convert a smart shape previously converted to curves into a smart shape again - which is not. How does performing a boolean operation would change this? Are you referring to Compound objects? That's not the same as smart object/shapes... Maybe I'm missing something. Can you expand a little please? Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 That's OK MEB. When I combine quick shapes (Boolean operation?), which may have been changed into curves, they then become a non-curved object which can be changed back into curved objects. Do you need an example? Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 The parametric shapes in the Affinity apps work just like QuickShapes in DrawPlus: applying any of the Geometry operations causes them to be converted to curves and you can’t convert them back again. Edit: I think the ‘Combine’ operation may be an exception to the above, but I don’t currently have access to DrawPlus to check. Instead of a ‘Break Apart’ command, the Affinity apps only have a ‘Divide’ command. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Nope, actually after conversion QuickShapes and Curves are internally (thus programmatically) completely different objects. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, v_kyr said: Nope, actually after conversion QuickShapes and Curves are internally (thus programmatically) completely different objects. Attached is a file showing what I mean. A = Two quick shapes B = Rectangle changed to curves and modified and then combined with the circle. The result is a non-curved shape. C = The combined shape converted into curves. Combined shapes.afdesign Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Could you not make a compound shape where the shape layer retains the rectangle title? Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, firstdefence said: Could you not make a compound shape where the shape layer retains the rectangle title? Next time I do one I'll check that out. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Well in my understanding the initial Q was, if a quick shape object when converted into a curve, can be transformed/converted back into a quick shape object (?). And that's actually not possible. - Everything else shown here so far, are just combinations of shapes and/or curves, in order to build some composite object or to overcome that initial mentioned object transformation limitation. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, v_kyr said: Well in my understanding the initial Q was, if a quick shape object when converted into a curve, can be transformed/converted back into a quick shape object (?). And that's actually not possible. - Everything else shown here so far, are just combinations of shapes and/or curves, in order to build some composite object or to overcome that initial mentioned object transformation limitation. My point was that by adding an invisible object to a shape that had been converted to a curve then it automatically becomes a non-curved combined shape. It may be that technically the new combined shape is not the same as a Quick shape. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 22, 2018 Staff Share Posted October 22, 2018 Hi jackamus, Thanks for the additional details. I'm not sure what do you mean by invisible shapes here (are you referring to the objects inside a compound object?) but looking at the file you uploaded, the first case (A) are just two simple geometric shapes (quick shapes) - there are parametric and their attributes can be adjusted anytime. (B) is a compound object or in other words the result of a non-destructive boolean operation - this is not a quick shape but the live result of a boolean operation - if the original objects used to perform it are quick shapes they will remain as quick shapes and their parameters can still be adjusted, if the original objects used to perform it are regular curves they will remain like so (non-parametric). (C) is the result of converting your compound shape to curves (so the original objects used in the boolean operation are now lost) or the result of a destructive boolean operation. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, jackamus said: My point was that by adding an invisible object to a shape that had been converted to a curve then it automatically becomes a non-curved combined shape. It may be that technically the new combined shape is not the same as a Quick shape. Hmm I'm not sure I can follow your intention completely. - So you may mean if an invisible object is added to a curved one, the combination of those objects might then look like a simple shape in the layers panel? Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Hi All, I'm sorry but I think I have been leading you all up blind alley! I went back to my original problem which was a rounded corner QS. I then tried out my adding an 'invisible' shape to restore it back to a non-curve shape. In doing this I lost the red radius adjustment node. It was this node that I wanted to restore to make it easy to edit all 4 corners at the same time. Sorry to mess you all about. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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