Philcinbath Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 In the latest version of Publisher the tables on my mac are unusable The column and row controls are not showing the actual row and column positions, and I cannot adjust the column widths On the previous version I could. So the app is now unusable. So I will have to abandon Publisher until this bug is fixed Jpeg of a table with the problem is attached. It is the second attachment. The first was downloaded by mistake, but there is no obvious way of deleting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_K Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Hi Philcinbath Can you describe exactly how you created this table at all? it would be nice to know any steps that may have been taken to see how the table got in this state. Are you able to provide the afpub file at all? Cheers Serif Europe Ltd - Check the latest news at www.affinity.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 The table was created when I imported a pdf, as being the only way to use a file created in Indesign I have now tried a table created from scratch in a different file, and its OK But if I insert a table into the problem file its not OK. The black outer row and column (whatever they are called) have white dividers the are not aligned with the actual row and column lines Hopefully the attached file is the problem file If, as it looks its an import problem, it tends to indicate that importing a pdf is too crude to be of much use, putting pressure on being able to import a native in design file LY V5 0.93.afpub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorTJ Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I have had very similar issues. Spent an hour building a very pretty table only to have it go haywire--as if it had a mind of its own. The last row grew beyond the document size and any attempts to reduce its height--either via mouse or entering number for height--only mad it grow larger. Had to quit and use Excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The bug about copying and pasting into the last cell of a table causing a crash, actually damages the table whichever cell you paste into, but in less obvious ways. Now that bug is fixed in the latest beta, I am hoping that new tables don't get these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted November 3, 2018 Staff Share Posted November 3, 2018 @SenorTJ Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums as Dave says, this should not happen now with new tables (ones created in the new build). Can you still make it happen in a new table in your document? Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorTJ Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Yes, it happened in latest build, 1.7.0.145 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, SenorTJ said: 1.7.0.145 That is not the latest build, there is a newer one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Harris Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Dave Harris said: The bug about copying and pasting into the last cell of a table causing a crash, actually damages the table whichever cell you paste into, but in less obvious ways. Now that bug is fixed in the latest beta, I am hoping that new tables don't get these problems. Latest beta meaning 1.7.0.157. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 Latest Beta 1.7.0.157 fixed the problem However if one uses about with 145 it says you have the latest version Serif should correct this bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 More on Table problems using 1.7.0.157 1 I copied and pasted a table to another document. The table was correct, and I could bring up the outer frame. However it had the dividing lines completely out of kilter with the column and row lines. I.e. copying made the table unusable 2 And these seem to be persistent problems/features a) If a row is inserted, there are no options. Its always where you don't want it, above rather than below b) If you want to insert several rows the industry standard of inserting as many rows as are currently selected, does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceritchie Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Since i upgraded to 1.7.0.162 im no longer able to edit Tables. Whether i try to adjust a table from a prior version in a file imported or if i create a new table i cant adjust width or height of columns, cells or rows. I cant see the table cell properties open up when i click the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I'm on .162 and not seeing any of those problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted December 29, 2018 Author Share Posted December 29, 2018 I am known 1.7.0.206 and all the table problems that seemed to be solved are back Basically tables are no longer editable. Picture below shows the problem. In green is the relevant extract from the help feature The table is selected, and the row and header cells are not there Clicking the table icon used to bring up the header cells. but no longer As some one who has used tables for longer than I care to remember I am having difficulty in understanding how this essential feature fails to work. to the extent that a table is not useable. And after the bug seemed to have been fixed I am also noticing that were it to work a column is always added before and not after. Choice is good. After is liveable. But why before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_K Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 HI Philcinbath You need to select the table with the table tool to get the headers to appear, Selecting it with just the move tool will not show these Serif Europe Ltd - Check the latest news at www.affinity.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 I wish it was that simple I know and experienced this sort of behaviour earlier, and I could get the headers to appear But no longer. And unless there is some very special way of "selecting with the table tool" it really does not work. IF Chris_K still thinks its because I do not know how to "Select with the table tool" it needs to be spelt out very precisely and correctly in the help file. (saying select is it seems wrong) In the meantime I have tried selecting the table in all the ways I can think of, but without success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Can you upload the APub project file to this forum? you may have inadvertently converted the Table to Curves, (very easily done) or something else may become evident if we can see the file To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 As suggested by carl123 I attache the file below LY V2 JB.afpub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 It seems fine to me. Using the Table Tool or Double Clicking with the Move Tool displays the table headers, which is what I would expect You may need to reset your copy of Publisher using the CTRL key method to see if that cures it for you, or wait to see if someone else has an idea To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSewell Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I think I may also be experiencing this bug. Usually, the table headers are there, but in some cases they suddenly disappear. The only way to bring them back is to quit Publisher and restart. I have had this for text frame rulers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 I did a reboot, and table headers now work Solved the problem. But I guess its actually best classified as a subtle bug Thanks to those who helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac_heibu Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Does this really mean, you encountered the issue at 12th of October (date of your initial post) and didn‘t try to solve you issue by restarting your machine since than? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 Replying to mac-heibu No I installed an update, got tables working, powered off, and closed Publisher several times. Each time tables worked fine But after a gap and an update I came to try and use a table, and couldn't . Prompted by carl123 I posted the file, which was reported to have a working table So clearly, at least as clearly as software issues can be, it was a corruption in Publisher, not in the file Perhaps since moving back to a Mac I have become unaccustomed to modal behaviour signifying a glitch, the sort of thing that was endemic in Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philcinbath Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 Definitely something is wrong All worked well and then I could not get back the table headers Quitting and restarting did not solve the issue Closing down the Mac and rebooting did I had gone about 7 days from the last reboot. Nothing else was showing a problem, and the MAC OS is so good its difficult to remember the last time I had to reboot to fix an app. I think it was about 6 months ago with Houdah spot. But its 3 times in 3 months with Publisher To me this is a bug I know about managing software projects, and it feels like a nasty one. Perhaps some sort of reset mechanism is needed. But now I know the fix, I am back using Publisher and getting to like it a lot Most missed is the ability to drag and drop text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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