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I just began a new file.  Created a text frame.  Checked the Text Frame Studio.  Ignore Text Wrap is checked.  Even though I left it unchecked when I saved the .afpub fiddling file.   So the default position -- at least in the MAC version of v. 140, appears to be the checked position.  Meaning that each time one creates a new file and plans to use an image, one has to go in and uncheck this box.  Never too old to learn new things.   


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Or here is an idea!  How about a little brain in the software which understands that when one clicks on the Show Text Wrap Settings (in the toolbar) that one wants to have Ignore Text Wraps unchecked in the Text Frame panel.   That way, one could then just adjust the wrap settings for the chosen wraps selection and they would show up in the document.   Voilà!!!


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2 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

So the default position -- at least in the MAC version of v. 140, appears to be the checked position.

It would be useful to have someone else confirm that on a Mac :)

It's not that I doubt you, but

  1. It's an unlikely default for Serif to have chosen; and
  2. It's possible that you had a text frame with that option active when you last told Publisher to set its defaults (Edit > Defaults > Save).

(In fact, if you're willing to experiment, you might try Edit > Defaults > Revert (or even, though I have less idea what it should do, Edit > Defaults > Factory Reset), and then see if that's still the default for your text frames.


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Great idea in theory, but it didn't work.  Edit>Defaults>Revert was entered.  The file was saved.  The file was reopened.  There is the click mark on Ignore Text Wraps.  Just the way it is when I open a new file.   Hopefully the Affinities will be able to figure this one out.   Perhaps my version of 140 is just sick of Peter Piper and the pickled peppers.


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42 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

So the default position -- at least in the MAC version of v. 140, appears to be the checked position.

Correct.

 

44 minutes ago, jmwellborn said:

Meaning that each time one creates a new file and plans to use an image, one has to go in and uncheck this box.

I will put text over a colour, an image etc quite frequently so for  me I would say it is about 50/50.  The last used setting was saved with a file but no amount of fiddling would get the unchecked be the default for a new file.


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3 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

Correct.

 

I will put text over a colour, an image etc quite frequently so for  me I would say it is about 50/50.  The last used setting was saved with a file but no amount of fiddling would get the unchecked be the default for a new file.

Thank you so much!   I was beginning to think that I had lost my mind.   All brain cells present and accounted for after all.  


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4 hours ago, jmwellborn said:

Great idea in theory, but it didn't work.  Edit>Defaults>Revert was entered.  The file was saved.  The file was reopened.  There is the click mark on Ignore Text Wraps.  Just the way it is when I open a new file.   Hopefully the Affinities will be able to figure this one out.   Perhaps my version of 140 is just sick of Peter Piper and the pickled peppers.

You would have needed to Revert the settings and then create a new file to test my theory. But it sounds like Old Bruce has confirmed it. That's a terrible default, and perhaps a bug in its own right.

Edit: But I do like your idea of Edit Text Wraps overriding it automatically.


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On 10/9/2018 at 6:24 PM, jmwellborn said:

Or here is an idea!  How about a little brain in the software which understands that when one clicks on the Show Text Wrap Settings (in the toolbar) that one wants to have Ignore Text Wraps unchecked in the Text Frame panel.   That way, one could then just adjust the wrap settings for the chosen wraps selection and they would show up in the document.   Voilà!!!

There's a bug with the default Ignore Text Wraps setting. It was never supposed to be on by default. We'll fix in a future beta.

Changing the setting automatically would not be right, because the object whose text wrap settings you are editing is different to the object you want to wrap around it. It shouldn't be necessary when the Ignore setting has the right default.

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1 hour ago, Dave Harris said:

There's a bug with the default Ignore Text Wraps setting. It was never supposed to be on by default. We'll fix in a future beta.

I just checked with the .145 update, and it seems that after making an new document the default is off. or am I just deluding myself. Is .145 the 'future beta'? I see it is listed as fixed in Windows but I am on Mac. Sorry if this is incoherent, I haven't had my morning coffee yet.


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25 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I just checked with the .145 update, and it seems that after making an new document the default is off. or am I just deluding myself. Is .145 the 'future beta'? I see it is listed as fixed in Windows but I am on Mac. Sorry if this is incoherent, I haven't had my morning coffee yet.

Sorry, no: the fix didn't make 145. It will be in .146 and later.

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4 hours ago, Dave Harris said:

There's a bug with the default Ignore Text Wraps setting. It was never supposed to be on by default. We'll fix in a future beta.

Changing the setting automatically would not be right, because the object whose text wrap settings you are editing is different to the object you want to wrap around it. It shouldn't be necessary when the Ignore setting has the right default.

Thank you!!!   I am so glad that this will be fixed in a future beta.   Meanwhile, "patience is a virtue."  As usual, you Affinities are splendid!   Gentlemen and ladies par excellance! 


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3 hours ago, Dave Harris said:

Sorry, no: the fix didn't make 145. It will be in .146 and later.

I noticed once I was more awake. Thanks anyway for the other stuff.


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