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So I imported a PDF into Designer on ipad, which is a floor plan with units set to mm in the original Illustrator-file. 

However if I open it in Designer, the units are obviously set to pt. I found no way to reset it back to mm, so I would be able to make measurements on this plan. Am I missing the document-setup?


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Woefi,

if you go to the Document Menu towards the top left of the app and choose resize document you will find the option to change units in the menu that appears towards the bottom of the screen.

Thanks

Callum

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Sorry, but this does not change the units for me...

  1. I tap the document_menu icon
  2. I tap resize
  3. on the bottom I get a toolbar with <document> 23804,0 pt <lock-icon> 9621.9 pt <separator-line> X-button and Check-button
  4. I tap on 23804,0 pt which is the width (and has a silly radial "download-progress" icon - strange UI...)
  5. a popup-window appears with "23804", <pt>, a calculator keypad and OK-button
  6. I tap <pt> and chose <mm> for millimeter - the value changes immediately to 8397,5, which should be correct
  7. I tap the OK-button
  8. NOTHING HAS CHANGED!
  9. value is 23803,9 pt which is slightly less than before... 
  10. insert <shrug emoji>

O.o

 

this is the german version 1.6.2.42 of Designer for iPad


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  • Keyboard-Layout: German apple extended keyboard (aluminum);

 

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5 minutes ago, woefi said:

3. on the bottom I get a toolbar with <document> 23804,0 pt <lock-icon> 9621.9 pt <separator-line> X-button and Check-button

To the right of the toolbar, look for a icon. Tap that to get to the second part of the toolbar, where the first item will be "Units." 


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12 hours ago, R C-R said:

To the right of the toolbar, look for a icon. Tap that to get to the second part of the toolbar, where the first item will be "Units." 

True, but what then is the purpose of the drop down units selector on the first resize menu? It appears to do nothing.


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43 minutes ago, DM1 said:

True, but what then is the purpose of the drop down units selector on the first resize menu? It appears to do nothing.

If you mean the width & height 'calculator' popups, they allow users to enter dimensions in any of the listed units they want, without changing the document's default units.


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So ...it saves having to work out what the different dimensions you have would equate to in the current doc dimensions. After entering it reverts to the document setting, but with the newly entered dimensions. Ok, that makes sense. Thanks.


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On 10/1/2018 at 3:23 PM, R C-R said:

To the right of the toolbar, look for a icon. Tap that to get to the second part of the toolbar, where the first item will be "Units." 

Thanks for finding this option!

Sadly this does not do all the things I expected...

My Situation: I use Illustrator to draw some blueprints/plans of our home with exact scale 1:100. This means 1 millimeter on the plan equals 10 centimeters in reallife (hooray metric system!)

Now moving my files to Designer and everything is now in points, which I would describe as a „bug“ (you should ALWAYS keep the same units of the source file!). If I do the trick to change the units, all is now displayed in millimeter, BUT with the unchanged pt-values - a 1 meter wide door which was 28.3 pt upon importing is now 28.3 mm - not 10mm which would be the original scale. 

I wonder if this has to do with the fact that designer is not able to import the raw illustrator-part of the file - only the pdf compatible version. And here it matters, HOW Illustrator chooses to export the pdf-part...

 

Anyway, obviously at this stage there is no good workflow to move thousands of ai-files accurately to designer. 


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1 hour ago, woefi said:

Now moving my files to Designer and everything is now in points, which I would describe as a „bug“ ...

I am not sure if this is what you mean or relevant to it but Preferences > Interface has a pair of options to show text & lines in points. Are they enables or disabled?


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On 10/20/2018 at 11:39 PM, R C-R said:

Are they enables or disabled?

Although I use the metric system, I still use points for text as it's industry standard. So this is enabled.


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  • Keyboard-Layout: German apple extended keyboard (aluminum);

 

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