A_B_C Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 I have to disagree, Petar. This is not a bug. Maybe we should stop using the term “soft return,” but rather speak of a “forced line break.” A forced line break is something that happens entirely within the paragraph context. First line indentation, however, applies to the paragraph as a whole, not to something that happens within a paragraph. So it is actually correct and consistent that a line following a forced line break is subject to the paragraph indentation (since every line within a paragraph is), but not to the setting for the first line indent. Therefore, the right way to solve this does not consist in fixing the alleged bug, but in adding Seneca’s checkbox Honour sense lines to the paragraph settings or styles. Quote
walt.farrell Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 If they add an option, I hope they don't refer to "sense line". I'm reasonably well-read, but I've never heard that term except in this forum topic, and searching for it via Google or in Wikipedia gives nothing relevant. I wonder what they're really called A_B_C 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Seneca Posted September 25, 2018 Author Posted September 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: I hope they don't refer to "sense line". Frankly, any term will do as long as this feature is implemented. But if it is implemented I'm sure we can come up with something appropriate. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4
Alfred Posted September 25, 2018 Posted September 25, 2018 2 hours ago, walt.farrell said: I hope they don't refer to "sense line". 1 hour ago, Seneca said: Frankly, any term will do as long as this feature is implemented. But if it is implemented I'm sure we can come up with something appropriate. Or, to put it another way, something that makes sense? A_B_C 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
Seneca Posted September 25, 2018 Author Posted September 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, αℓƒяє∂ said: something that makes sense? Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4
Seneca Posted September 25, 2018 Author Posted September 25, 2018 This is what the Unicode Standard has to say about that line separation in New Line Guidelines 5.8 ------ http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch05.pdf Line Separator and Paragraph Separator A paragraph separator—independent of how it is encoded—is used to indicate a separation between paragraphs. A line separator indicates where a line break alone should occur, typically within a paragraph. For example: This is a paragraph with a line separator at this point, causing the word “causing” to appear on a different line, but not causing the typical paragraph indentation, sentence breaking, line spacing, or change in flush (right, center, or left paragraphs). For comparison, line separators basically correspond to HTML <BR>, and paragraph sep- arators to older usage of HTML <P> (modern HTML delimits paragraphs by enclosing them in <P>...</P>). In word processors, paragraph separators are usually entered using a keyboard RETURN or ENTER; line separators are usually entered using a modified RETURN or ENTER, such as SHIFT-ENTER. ------- Whats needed is for Publisher to treat these lines to also obey sense lines. A_B_C 1 Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4
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