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I have to disagree, Petar. This is not a bug. :)

Maybe we should stop using the term “soft return,” but rather speak of a “forced line break.” A forced line break is something that happens entirely within the paragraph context. First line indentation, however, applies to the paragraph as a whole, not to something that happens within a paragraph. So it is actually correct and consistent that a line following a forced line break is subject to the paragraph indentation (since every line within a paragraph is), but not to the setting for the first line indent.

Therefore, the right way to solve this does not consist in fixing the alleged bug, but in adding Seneca’s checkbox Honour sense lines to the paragraph settings or styles. :)

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If they add an option, I hope they don't refer to "sense line".

I'm reasonably well-read, but I've never heard that term except in this forum topic, and searching for it via Google or in Wikipedia gives nothing relevant.

I wonder what they're really called :)

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22 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I hope they don't refer to "sense line".

Frankly, any term will do as long as this feature is implemented. But if it is  implemented I'm sure we can come up with something appropriate. :)

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2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

I hope they don't refer to "sense line".

 

1 hour ago, Seneca said:

Frankly, any term will do as long as this feature is implemented. But if it is  implemented I'm sure we can come up with something appropriate:)

Or, to put it another way, something that makes sense? :P

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This is what the Unicode Standard has to say about that line separation in New Line Guidelines 5.8

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http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch05.pdf

Line Separator and Paragraph Separator

A paragraph separator—independent of how it is encoded—is used to indicate a separation between paragraphs. A line separator indicates where a line break alone should occur, typically within a paragraph. For example:

This is a paragraph with a line separator at this point,
causing the word “causing” to appear on a different line, but not causing
the typical paragraph indentation, sentence breaking, line spacing, or
change in flush (right, center, or left paragraphs).

For comparison, line separators basically correspond to HTML <BR>, and paragraph sep- arators to older usage of HTML <P> (modern HTML delimits paragraphs by enclosing them in <P>...</P>). In word processors, paragraph separators are usually entered using a keyboard RETURN or ENTER; line separators are usually entered using a modified RETURN or ENTER, such as SHIFT-ENTER.

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Whats needed is for Publisher to treat these lines to also obey sense lines.

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