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How do I copy and paste without scaling? If I create a large circle, then create an inner shadow fx on it, then paste it to a smaller circle, the values of the fx is not the same. For some reason the fx value has scaled down even though the "scale with object" option is not selected. How do I copy and paste fx without this scaling?

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Pasting fx appears to work correctly in Affinity Designer but not in Affinity Photo.

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Adding a 10px Outline fx to a 100px Circle in Affinity Designer, then copying and pasting that fx to a 200px circle, pastes the correct size i.e. 10px

Affinity Photo.
Adding a 10px Outline fx to a 100px Circle in Affinity Photo, then copying and pasting that fx to a 200px circle, pastes the incorrect size i.e. 20px so it's scaling it.

 

Scale with Object should have no affect on copy paste, as this relates to the resizing of the object with an fx applied and the fx follows suit.

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6 hours ago, firstdefence said:

Scale with Object should have no affect on copy paste, as this relates to the resizing of the object with an fx applied and the fx follows suit.

How are you copying the Layer Effects applied to a layer? 

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8 hours ago, firstdefence said:

Pasting fx appears to work correctly in Affinity Designer but not in Affinity Photo.

Affinity Designer.
Adding a 10px Outline fx to a 100px Circle in Affinity Designer, then copying and pasting that fx to a 200px circle, pastes the correct size i.e. 10px

Affinity Photo.
Adding a 10px Outline fx to a 100px Circle in Affinity Photo, then copying and pasting that fx to a 200px circle, pastes the incorrect size i.e. 20px so it's scaling it.

 

Scale with Object should have no affect on copy paste, as this relates to the resizing of the object with an fx applied and the fx follows suit.

I'm using Designer and it's doing what you are saying is only in Photo. I have the most current version on Windows 10. Is this some sort of bug because this scaled version is literally not a copy and is mostly just annoying?

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2 minutes ago, >|< said:

When you copy fx from an object ...

Would someone please tell me how to copy just the fx from an object?

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5 minutes ago, >|< said:

As you are well aware, when you copy an object that has fx, the fx are included in the copy and can be pasted to another object.

So does using Edit > Paste FX not paste all of the copied FX to another object -- including the "Scale with Object" property -- for some of you?

It does for me, thus I do not understand the earlier comment that Scale with Object should have no affect on the paste. How can it not?

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Just now, R C-R said:

So does using Edit > Paste FX not paste all of the copied FX to another object -- including the "Scale with Object" property -- for some of you?

It does for me, thus I do not understand the earlier comment that Scale with Object should have no affect on the paste. How can it not?

The problem is that if you paste fx from one object to a different size object, the value of the fx scales to fit that object instead of actually pasting the same values.

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2 minutes ago, abject39 said:

The problem is that if you paste fx from one object to a different size object, the value of the fx scales to fit that object instead of actually pasting the same values.

I get different results in Photo & Designer, depending on if Scale with Object is ticked or not in the copied object.

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11 minutes ago, >|< said:

I get the same problem in the Mac software as you get in the Windows software.

Everything works as expected for me, except in Photo, where with "Scale with Object" not ticked on the copy source object, I get oddly scaled pixel values on the pasted one. For example, I copy 100 px x 100 px square rectangle with a 10 px radius outside Outline FX. When I use Paste FX on a 200 px x 200 px square rectangle, the radius pasted is 15.13 px.

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4 minutes ago, >|< said:

Source object fx has "Scale with Object" disabledwhen you copy the source object and paste its fx to a destination object, the fx parameters are scaled by (destination object's original size divided by source object's original size).

That is not happening in Designer for me -- there is no scaling. For example, my 10 px radius Outline FX is applied with the same 10 px radius to the destination object.

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3 minutes ago, >|< said:

Same happens in Designer, Photo and Publisher on macOS. I explained what is happening.

That is definitely not happening for me in Designer. As I said, if "Scale with Object" is not ticked, the pasted FX is not scaled. If "Scale with Object" is ticked, then the pasted FX is scaled. This seems the same or similar to what @firstdefence mentioned in this post above, except for the part about "Scale with Object" not having an affect.

My system & application specs are as in my sig below.

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Well, I don't know what else to show you besides video evidence of the issue and that I clearly did not select "scale with object". My system specs are Affinity Designer 1.6.5.123, Windows 10, Surface Book, i7 6600U CPU, Custom NVIDIA 940, 16GB RAM. Pretty much running stock, no torrents or pirated software at all that would interfere with Affinity Designer.

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