TommyW Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Summary: Working on a document, decide to change the page size, find it impossible to do globally. Must do it page by page. Approach: I expected to be able to change - Initially Document Setup for overall dimensions but not available. - Then the master page, then apply that to the existing pages, but it had no effect even when Apply Master was used. - Then selecting all pages and choosing Spread Setup and changing dimensions but only the initial selected page was changed. Result: had to do it page by page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aammppaa Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Seems to work for me… Created a new document at A4 size. Added a few random text frames. Went into Spread Setup. Chose All Spreads and A5 Landscape. Result: All spreads changed from A4 to A5 Landscape. Win10 Home x64 | AMD Ryzen 7 2700X @ 3.7GHz | 48 GB RAM | 1TB SSD | nVidia GTX 1660 | Wacom Intuos Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon W Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 This doesn't work for me. Keeps defaulting to Device on Spread Setup and won't let me change anything, it just reverts to the current layout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 The problem is that you cannot globally change, say, the spread size of a document that had been created using a preset from the Device category to a size taken from the Print category. That’s a limitation indeed. Hmm. (But you can, of course, globally enter custom pt values for the spread size, Simon.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 The missing categories might be a bug though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liegemg Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I am having the same problem. Page size in my document is custom and I need it 15mm longer. I changed the master adding 15mm in lenght and 15mm in inner margins to keep design aligned with outer margins. When I apply the Master to all pages, no page changes size, but margins do change. When I select the master in Layers I can see a "frame" of the master with the right size over the page on view, but the page is still the original size. How annoying that such things that used to be so simple with Page Plus now take ages to solve... Please help! LEB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Liegemg said: When I apply the Master to all pages, no page changes size, You cannot change page sizes by applying a different Master or a changed Master. You must use Spread Setup, either from the Context Toolbar or from File > Spread Setup... -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liegemg Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Thank you, Walt. Is there a reason for that? It would make things easier to have master page size reflect on pages. When I selected all pages and changes size on spread properties, it worked for all pages but the 2 pages on the last spread. Not sure why, but at least problem was solved. walt.farrell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 It might just be the way they did it. Or it might be related to the fact that you can apply multiple Masters to a single document page, and if the Master page could change the document page size that might get complicated and make Master page handling harder for both Serif and the user. A_B_C 1 -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetasig Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I just used the Spread Setup to change the document specifications. I used "scaled" for All Pages and made the page width a few points less wide. And changed margins a bit. All of the document pages changed to match. However, the master pages did not change - so that leaves the "section names" and "page numbers" (that are at the inside corners of the margins) not displaying correctly on all of the spreads. That is, the recto page (the spreads are now less wide than the masters) shows page numbers and section names too far to the right. They are "objects", correct? I have 4 masters and each spread/page has only a single master applied. So then I displayed the first master page and attempted to change the document size - AFPUB froze and stopped responding. Would appreciate help in getting this done - the object is to make the pages slightly less wide in preparation for uploading to a print shop - to meet their specifications for page sizing, etc., AND to get the masters to change to match. And, ideally, the objects on the pages will scale a tiny bit to accommodate the less wide pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, thetasig said: AND to get the masters to change to match. That currently takes a second use of Spread Setup, to change the Master pages. I'm not sure if that's what you tried, as you mention changing the document size, not using Spread Setup again. -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetasig Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Thank you, Walt. I did get it to work. However, I found that using Scaling, anchor to page, or anchor to spread all moved objects around on the pages - losing any "centering" I had used between objects and centering to the page. This meant that, for example, background images (full spread or full page) would overlap into the bleed (or not abut the bleed as originally done) instead of staying within the boundaries. I performed a manual change back to what I wanted, but maybe this should be looked into. What I would expect is that "scaling" would automatically scale objects larger or smaller AND keep them in a relative position on the page and/or spread. Am I expecting too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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