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On 2/26/2021 at 3:14 PM, walt.farrell said:

The Affinity Store page did not say that Publisher could design a web page. It said you could design a mockup of a web page. That would be a visual display that looks like a web page, but does not actually operate.

For what you described, wanting to export JPG and PNG and SVG files, for different screen sizes, you want Designer and perhaps more importantly its Export Persona, which Publisher does not have.

Publisher is best for books, or for designs that require only the main Personas (Designer Persona, Photo Persona) from the other two applications when you own them.

In all publishing programs there is the export of assets. For example Indesign allows the export of html and adds each image in separate folders. Quark Xpress can export both via html and image. I would buy Designer because the price is ridiculous, but I want to use Publisher (I don't want to design in Designer, because I want master pages). If by clicking on Designer(icon studio link) I can use perfect export person and then I can go back to publisher and it keeps the exports of my pages?, that would be great. I would pay more than 500€ to have the export in Publisher, it is the only thing I need. 

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2 hours ago, oscarlosan said:

If by clicking on Designer(icon studio link) I can use perfect export person and then I can go back to publisher and it keeps the exports of my pages?, that would be great.

You do not have the Export Persona in Publisher. StudioLink will only give you the Designer Persona. If you want the Export Persona you must use the full Designer application, which you could do via File > Edit in Designer.

I do not see the relevance of Master Pages for doing the kind of design work you've described. Master Pages are more relevant for creating a book, not a web site, in my opinion. And for creating objects for a web site (which is about all you can do with the Affinity applications), Designer is the better choice overall, in my opinion.

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7 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

No tiene la personalidad de exportación en el publicador. StudioLink solo le dará el personaje de diseñador. Si desea exportar persona, debe usar la aplicación designer completa, que podría hacer a través de Archivo > Editar en designer.

No veo la relevancia de las páginas maestras para hacer el tipo de trabajo de diseño que ha descrito. Las páginas maestras son más relevantes para crear un libro, no un sitio web, en mi opinión. Y para crear objetos para un sitio web (que es casi todo lo que puede hacer con las aplicaciones Affinity), Designer es la mejor opción en general, en mi opinión.


I do see a big difference in it, you have the block with the miniature pages. Also, if I have to design 50 landings of a website: there are common headers, common footers, sidebar, ... and I like to layout it with the agility of master pages (I am not convinced by the symbols, I like the master pages and their panel of pages). For you it may not be useful, but for me and others it is. It is what I use in other layout programs and I am not the only one who does it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Catshill said:

Please don’t. The history of DTP applications attempting to produce html is woeful. If you need a html editor download Sharepoint designer or another free specialist application. 


It will be unfortunate, but it is a good starting point because it gives us the exported images. We also deliver images to the development team already cut well by layer group, masks, ... without having to fight with the web developer. Then you can attack that html with some framework like bootstrap. Did you know that newsletters are still made with html tables (not divs) because they are read by all mail applications? Photoshop, Indesign, Quark (even reponsive html, it is not so unfortunate, it is memorable), Xara designer, ... and much more they do.

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On 3/28/2020 at 12:56 PM, walt.farrell said:

Generally Serif does not respond to feature requests; they just read them and factor them into their planning.

However, so far they have said that Publisher is for books, and they have shown no inclination to implement HTML export or other web-design functions in the Affinity suite of products. So while it may come someday, I doubt it will be in the next few years.

Constraints are a web design feature however - or at the very least a responsive design one.

 

Also, html/css export would be useful for feature parity with figma, another layout tool :) They're not made to deliver a final html product, but it could be a starting block.

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On 5/11/2021 at 8:17 AM, oscarlosan said:


It will be unfortunate, but it is a good starting point because it gives us the exported images. We also deliver images to the development team already cut well by layer group, masks, ... without having to fight with the web developer. Then you can attack that html with some framework like bootstrap. Did you know that newsletters are still made with html tables (not divs) because they are read by all mail applications? Photoshop, Indesign, Quark (even reponsive html, it is not so unfortunate, it is memorable), Xara designer, ... and much more they do.

I have never seen a DTP application that reproduces clean, usable HTML and I would avoid this approach. 

I can recommend Microsoft Expression https://www.techspot.com/downloads/2934-microsoft-expression-web.html if you are using Windows.

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27 minutes ago, Catshill said:

I have never seen a DTP application that reproduces clean, usable HTML and I would avoid this approach. 

I can recommend Microsoft Expression https://www.techspot.com/downloads/2934-microsoft-expression-web.html if you are using Windows.


I and many users are very happy with what it produces: Photoshop, Indesign, Quark, Xara designer, ....
That is enough for us. Work in the same application they know. 0 problems. Then the developer will improve it. We all know that there are applications that generate html. You don't have to repeat it so many times. What we need to unlink from Indesign, Quark, ... not having to use 2 applications.


 

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20 hours ago, oscarlosan said:


I and many users are very happy with what it produces: Photoshop, Indesign, Quark, Xara designer, ....
That is enough for us. Work in the same application they know. 0 problems. Then the developer will improve it. We all know that there are applications that generate html. You don't have to repeat it so many times. What we need to unlink from Indesign, Quark, ... not having to use 2 applications.


 

Excellent applications for producing and editing bitmap and/or vector graphics including for websites but that is not markup language. 
Markup language and images can work together but are not the same thing.

You might paint a picture, and hang it on your wall in a frame but you wouldn’t expect the paint brush to MAKE the physical frame.

 

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2 hours ago, Catshill said:

Excellent applications for producing and editing bitmap and/or vector graphics including for websites but that is not markup language. 
Markup language and images can work together but are not the same thing.

You might paint a picture, and hang it on your wall in a frame but you wouldn’t expect the paint brush to MAKE the physical frame.

 


HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is a marking lenguage. And those applications export your design to html (we need it to export, not to be a code editor. Don't make us dizzy). And they don't just use markup language. Some, like Quark express(DTP application), export to html5 and also use the new standard css flex native to browsers. Without having to use a css framework. Pay attention to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKZwBEe6iNs

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On 5/13/2021 at 8:13 AM, oscarlosan said:


HTML (HyperText Markup Language) is a marking lenguage. And those applications export your design to html (we need it to export, not to be a code editor. Don't make us dizzy). And they don't just use markup language. Some, like Quark express(DTP application), export to html5 and also use the new standard css flex native to browsers. Without having to use a css framework. Pay attention to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKZwBEe6iNs

If you are looking for a DTP application that produces HTML then it looks like you have found one.

If you are looking for an application to create images that can be used on the web then you can use APho and ADes.

 

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1 hour ago, Catshill said:

You are 

You are repeating earlier comments that as I have already said are based on flawed logic but I see no point in continuing with you. Best of luck.

Yes better. Let users request new features (which they use daily in other design applications).
I would at least stop using my other apps if I had:
1) Export to html
2) Native slices in publisher. But don't repeat this to me: You do not have the Export Persona in Publisher. StudioLink will only give you the Designer Persona. If you want the Export Persona you must use the full Designer application, which you could do via File> Edit in Designer.

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On 5/11/2021 at 1:14 AM, Catshill said:

Please don’t. The history of DTP applications attempting to produce html is woeful. If you need a html editor download Sharepoint designer or another free specialist application. 

You really seem to be talking down to everyone that would like this feature, and yet your recommendations have been two different Microsoft applications that are both many years discontinued... 😒

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10 hours ago, paulsonb said:

You really seem to be talking down to everyone that would like this feature, and yet your recommendations have been two different Microsoft applications that are both many years discontinued... 😒

That was not my intention and an apology if my comments have come over that way. It is still valid, I believe, to determine what exactly is meant when someone asks for HTML export though and to query for which particular app.

HTML editors have come and gone and have largely replaced by frameworks and CMS like Wordpress. The Microsoft application is discontinued but still available to download and perfectly functional which is why I suggested it but an alternative is https://fixthephoto.com/dreamweaver-free.html

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I run a diary which appears both in print and, looking very different and frequently updated, online. I really don't want to have to enter all the data twice, so I type into Indesign in the print format, and export from Indesign as HTML4, which gives me the text with named styles and references to the graphics. With appropriate CSS already in place there, the HTML is copied and pasted into our website. Because this is online all the time, contributors can check their entries are correct in the confidence that they will also be correct in print.
This is now just about my only reason for hanging on to Indesign, and when I update my computer I'm going to have to start renting it, as CS6 is 32-bit.
Am I really the only Affinity customer who needs this combined approach to print and web? I'm not asking for HTML5, as I'm not trying to imitate the appearance of the print document, and I'd have thought the simpler export I need would be relatively easy to program. 
Any chance, Affinity?

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7 hours ago, RKP said:


Am I really the only Affinity customer who needs this combined approach to print and web? I'm not asking for HTML5, as I'm not trying to imitate the appearance of the print document, and I'd have thought the simpler export I need would be relatively easy to program. 
Any chance, Affinity?

I think the rise Frameworks and CMS for dynamic sites have pretty much killed static sites as witnessed by the demise many years ago of once popular html editors . All my sites run on Wordpress and I would not want to go back. Designer and Photo make great tools alongside however.

As for an export function being simple, I think this would be an extremely difficult function to implement especially if the requirement is for clean, standard compliant code.

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16 hours ago, RKP said:

as I'm not trying to imitate the appearance of the print document

I think the example you give illustrates very well the advantage to different distribution media. At the moment APub is obviously made for print. In the long run there might be additional export formats. But this may need a lot of thought and planning to take Publisher's publishing capabilities to a really powerfull next level.

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16 hours ago, Catshill said:

I think the rise Frameworks and CMS for dynamic sites have pretty much killed static sites as witnessed by the demise many years ago of once popular html editors . All my sites run on Wordpress and I would not want to go back. Designer and Photo make great tools alongside however.

As for an export function being simple, I think this would be an extremely difficult function to implement especially if the requirement is for clean, standard compliant code.


The designers of templates for wordpress, do not create them from wordpress. There is not only wordpress: Joomla, drupal, prestashop, magento, ... This CMS is not worth to design websites and layout them seriously. Block builders are horrible. Wordpress manages the content (CMS), it is what it does well. Do not block our requests.

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8 hours ago, oscarlosan said:


The designers of templates for wordpress, do not create them from wordpress. There is not only wordpress: Joomla, drupal, prestashop, magento, ... This CMS is not worth to design websites and layout them seriously. Block builders are horrible. Wordpress manages the content (CMS), it is what it does well. Do not block our requests.

Indeed there are lots of frameworks and cms. It is possible to design and modify themes and create layouts. to You don’t have to use a block builder. That way you can create manageable, responsive sites that are more likely to be compliant and be indexed by search engines. Good luck with your quest but note I have no power to “block your requests”. Just don’t shoot the messenger 🙂

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20 minutes ago, Catshill said:

Indeed there are lots of frameworks and cms. It is possible to design and modify themes and create layouts. to You don’t have to use a block builder. That way you can create manageable, responsive sites that are more likely to be compliant and be indexed by search engines. Good luck with your quest but note I have no power to “block your requests”. Just don’t shoot the messenger 🙂

We don't want to search. We need things that other applications already have and work (Indesign and Quark Xpress: it has html export and designers like it.). For what you comment I prefer to layout them visually with Dreamweaver. I am seo. Indexability and seo are not given by wordpress cms.

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I'm still involved in creating content for web site featuring large amounts of static pages. Product presentations, videos, support data download, technical articles, reviews. I don't see this type of web site fading away very soon.

I would find great something at the cross of a traditional page layout program, and a web site design tool like Elementor or RapidWeaver. Maybe it can be an export persona in Publisher, letting one go into the code while exporting.

Paolo

 

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1 hour ago, PaoloT said:

I would find great something at the cross of a traditional page layout program, and a web site design tool like Elementor or RapidWeaver.

Look into Coffeecup Software's Sitedesigner. It's all visual design and puts out rather good code.

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3 hours ago, dominik said:

Look into Coffeecup Software's Sitedesigner. It's all visual design and puts out rather good code.

Thank you for the hint, but I'm obviously not looking for a dedicated web development tool. There are many of them, and all of them require you create each page as a new layout. Further to this discussion, what I'm missing is a way to single-sourcing a publication to print, digital and web content.

Paolo

 

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22 hours ago, oscarlosan said:

I am seo. Indexability and seo are not given by wordpress cms.

What does that mean?

SEO is definitely possible with WP and it wouldn’t get used if it were otherwise. 

E.G... 

Select an SEO-optimised theme.

Update your permalink settings.

Create XML sitemaps.

Optimize your page titles and meta descriptions.

Optimize your images.

Provide links to related content.

Organize your content with categories and tags.

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