ernie-f Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Without footnotes, I don't have a chance to do some of my commissioned work. See picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Exactly the point I was trying to make. I'm continuing to use Pageplus for the present time until Affinity Publisher has footnotes, which is a shame as I like what they have done so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernie-f Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Yes, the Serif Team does agreat job but important things like footnotes, anchoring pictures, and. . . are missing. I hope that everything will be implemented in the final version. Otherwise the Publisher is for me not professionally usable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, ernie-f said: Otherwise the Publisher is for me not professionally usable. Then don't use it. The affinity team has already said that the footnotes will not make it into the first release of Publisher. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted February 26, 2019 Staff Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, ernie-f said: I hope that everything will be implemented in the final version. We all hope that. Ver 1.7 will not have this feature. Serif have not said what features will be in 1.8 or other updates to 1.X. I would rather not think about a "final version" ... that feels very far off for this fledgling product. cubesquareredux, Mark Oehlschlager, jrutled3 and 2 others 2 3 Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Oehlschlager Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 @Patrick Connor Thank you for your honest reply. Naturally, Serif would like for their product to be successful. But you can also imagine how desperate many people are for there to be an affordable alternative to the Adobe suite of apps and their onerous subscription pay model. This, in concert with Apple forcing migration to all 64-bit apps in the next 6-9 months, has many freelance designers and small creative agencies, who have been clinging to the last available perpetual license to the Adobe suite (CS6) for as long as possible, in a mild state of panic. It may be more than Serif can deliver on within the year, but I, and I suspect many creatives, are desperately clinging to the hope that Serif will provide the escape route from having one's work and finances trapped by Adobe and their subscription model for "renting" tools. It's no mean feat, but means achieving feature parity with the Adobe suite, and breaking through Adobe's virtual monopoly enforced by an "industry standard" proprietary file format. All of my hopes and best wishes are with Serif and their ability to pull this off. jrutled3, Patrick Connor, A_B_C and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narrationsd Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Late to the party, but not because not needed here. I just noticed the one thing missing in a paper I did over from InDesign. I wonder if Endnotes wouldn't be the easier implementation, and thus something that could avoid reviewer criticism on this point, for first release success? An elegant program...thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrutled3 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 6:24 PM, Mark Oehlschlager said: All of my hopes and best wishes are with Serif and their ability to pull this off. Patrick Connor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martoll Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Yes please! Give us footnotes! I think this is esssential for scientific products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Of course beeing able to setup Footnotes, Endnotes, Sidenotes and lists of abbreviations, figures, formulars ... etc. in a flexible customizable manner is something a DTP software should Ideally be able to deal with. - I don't know how the former Win times PagePlus handled those things, but if it supported those things in a quite acceptable manner here, then just reuse parts and principles from that one. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, v_kyr said: but if it supported those things in a quite acceptable manner here, then just reuse parts and principles from that one. My impression is they could try to reuse principles, but as the code is entirely different (and in a different programming language, I think) they could not reuse any of the code. And while the principles might be useful in writing the new code, it would have to be a completely new design and implementation. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: My impression is they could try to reuse principles, but as the code is entirely different (and in a different programming language, I think) they could not reuse any of the code. Nah I pretty much doubt they started everything absolutely from scratch here. For sure they reuse algorithms, datastructures and thus some code/design parts etc. Also in term of the used programming languages there isn't much difference under the hood here for something like a backend. Quote Affinity is mainly written in C++ with the Mac version front-end written in Objective C. ... Quote PagePlus is primarily written in C++ using Visual Studio 2008, with a heavy dependence on the MFC framework. The Windows GDI library was discarded early in development in favour of an in-house composition engine supporting advanced bitmap and typeface operations. The text engine supports Unicode text entry. ... Only for the adaption/reusage of very OS specific system related API and OS service parts you have to keep care of certain different platform aspects. From what I've seen on the net even many frontend UI parts look quite the same or similar for the older Serif software and the Affinity line. Jowday 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 9/3/2018 at 4:40 PM, Mike Perry said: I would, however, agree with those who'd like to see footnotes handled in a more powerful way. Untangling Tolkien, my day-by-day chronology of Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings was done in Framemaker, which allowed me create the equivalent of footnotes for references to the source in LOTR in a sidebar alongside the text to which it applies. That worked far better than bottom of the page footnotes or endnotes. I can't do that in ID. +1 for footnotes and endnotes. I think "sidenotes" are solved now by adding the new feature -> pinned objects. NilsFinken 1 Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 9/15/2018 at 12:54 PM, Peter Kahrel said: > Visit any university library and you'll find that endnotes replaced footnotes long ago, perhaps in the 1950s. Complete nonsense. Academic publishers prefer footnotes. > In the era before computers, endnotes were far easier to typeset. Footnotes are more practical. You can find the explanation of the marked text on the bottom of the page instead of searching through the book while keeping your finger(s) between pages waiting for the next endnote to come. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 9/16/2018 at 3:38 PM, Seneca said: Exactly. I don't want to scout for footnotes somewhere else in the book, particularly, where there are many of them. Footnotes are always at the bottom of the page and endnotes are on the end of the chapter, story or book. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 7:49 PM, Bhikkhu Pesala said: Almost, but not quite. Endnotes are placed at the end of the story, while footnotes are placed at the bottom of the text frame. PagePlus has both. The option to place footnotes immediately after the end of the text before a page break, or at the end of the story has been a feature request for many years. What about "paragraphnotes"? A kind of footnotes but just bellow the paragraph where the marked word is? Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I would like: selecting all footnotes (or endnotes) by CTRL + A for reapplying text styles (like in Word. ID and QXP don't have this feature); spaning footnotes across columns; continuing long footnotes to the next page. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said: selecting all footnotes (or endnotes) by CTRL + A for reapplying text styles (like in Word. ID and QXP don't have this feature); Hi @Petar Petrenko, I'm sure you know there reason why there is no CTRL (Command) + A for that. Footnotes are styled, so as soon as you update the style of a footnote all footnotes are restyled (updated). Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seneca said: Hi @Petar Petrenko, I'm sure you know there reason why there is no CTRL (Command) + A for that. Footnotes are styled, so as soon as you update the style of a footnote all footnotes are restyled (updated). In many cases there is a need to update a style. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdriftmeyer Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 12:58 PM, ernie-f said: Without footnotes, I don't have a chance to do some of my commissioned work. See picture. I would only ever use TeXLive for such work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernie-f Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 And why You would do this in Tex? An grphic orientant workflow with live control is in m.o. the better way. There is no only one thing to do – there are many, so the workflow for a new and modern publishing app may be so easy as possible. Jowday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomasino Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 One more vote for footnotes. Only thing holding me back from switching from InDesign. Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 On 5/1/2019 at 6:06 AM, Petar Petrenko said: What about "paragraphnotes"? A kind of footnotes but just bellow the paragraph where the marked word is? I'm all for popupnotes that simply pop up in a little tooltip-like box when you hover over the marking, but sadly I haven't seen any products that could make those work in print yet. They seem to be restricted to digital media for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 15 hours ago, fde101 said: I'm all for popupnotes that simply pop up in a little tooltip-like box when you hover over the marking, but sadly I haven't seen any products that could make those work in print yet. They seem to be restricted to digital media for the time being. Pop-up notes are only for digital media. They can't be printed on paper. Quote All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Al Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 10:46 PM, ernie-f said: Yes, the Serif Team does agreat job but important things like footnotes, anchoring pictures, and. . . are missing. I hope that everything will be implemented in the final version. Otherwise the Publisher is for me not professionally usable. Well, I use it already professionally (though it is recommended not to, yet)... but, it's true, I don't need footnotes in my books. But, if I really had to get stuff to place down a page, I would simply create few more Master Pages including these needed spaces and do the rest of the job manually. Yes, maybe you have tones of references to lay down there... then, of course, it is harsh to handle too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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