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9 hours ago, Patrick Connor said:

So given where we are I believe Serif need to concentrate on adding functionality and features to Affinity Publisher not a PagePlus importer, or else you would just be able to open your PagePlus documents in a new program that you don't wish to use or recommend either. I think you are asking for both improvements and an importer, but good developers are hard to get.

Not quite true.  I would like an importer to allow me to open existing hard-created documents in your bright shiny new program. Then, if the new program works as well as PP for my purposes (which are not hugely complicated) I can safely and happily move across to using that.

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1 hour ago, MJWHM said:

Not quite true.  I would like an importer to allow me to open existing hard-created documents in your bright shiny new program. Then, if the new program works as well as PP for my purposes (which are not hugely complicated) I can safely and happily move across to using that.

This probably goes for the vast majority of PP users.

As has been said conversion might not be perfect but, given the choice between doing a little tidying up of a converted file and starting over completely from scratch I know which one I would prefer.

 

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On 8/30/2018 at 6:36 PM, OGMedia said:

I opened a 32 page publication as a PDF file in AP and there were no issues other than some minor cleanup work that needed to be done, and it handled all 32 pages without memory issues.

I wonder whether you edited or altered it in any way, or simply accepted the pdf as was?

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I have to say, that I am astonished at not having any way to Import PagePlus files. I got an invite by email to download the Beta as I am a Serif Customer, the main product I use is PagePlus. I have been using it for years, first with a company I worked for, then bought it myself. I have loads of files that I update regularly.

I understand new software, designed from scratch, not on the old platform, but I don't understand that there is no way to import PagePlus files. Surely there must be a way for you to do this for your existing customers, whether a stand alone app, a plug in or integrated into Affinity, I really think this is an essential. 

I use OpenOffice, if someone sends my a Microsoft Word file, I can open it with Open Office. Though it is completely different software, not built on the same code base, Open Office realise that they need to open MS Word files, as their users will need this facility. It doesn't always work perfectly because of the differences in the software features, but it does import them. I find it really hard to understand that Serif don't realise how important it is for customers to import files from their own old software. I don't expect PP to be able to open Affinity files, but I really did expect the new software to open the old files. 

The first thing I did when I opened the beta programme was to try and open an existing PagePlus file, well that didn't go well, then I looked on the forum to find out how to do it and found this thread. :(

In business it is a know fact that it is easier and cheaper to sell to existing customers that to acquire new customers. I guess a percentage of your existing customers will look elsewhere now. If they have to start from scratch anyway, they will look for a company that will support them and all their work long term. Where you could have made easy and cheap sales to existing customers, you will loose a bunch of those and have to market to new customers instead.

Me? I will continue to use PagePlus and when I need to update in the future, I will look at what is available. Maybe I will turn to Affinity, maybe not. But, where this was an opportunity for an easy sale to an existing customer, it has backfired I think.

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These arguments seem to be becoming circular.

 

Let's be clear - Publisher is in its infancy.  As Patrick has said - we need to spend time putting in the core set of features that most people would expect.

 

The vast majority of Publisher users will not be ex-PagePlus users. Any time spent now on an importer is going to be of no value to them, and will be at the expense of features that everyone would use.

 

Since Publisher does not have the set of features supported by PagePlus, what would an importer give you right now?  50%, 40%, 30% of the features required to make an import meaningful?  So, we give you an importer now that transfers only the features we have. Are you going to be happy with the outcome, or are you then going to start asking for other features to be added that are required to import your old PagePlus document?  Where does it realistically end??  Most of the arguments being put forward for a specific importer over a PDF (or other) migration seem to rely on higher level features.

 

Right now you have a working solution - you can carry on using PagePlus to maintain your documents. That has not changed in any way due to the release of Publisher.  Anyone moving from Windows to Mac also is in no worse situation than they would have been if we had not released Publisher (so I don't see that as a valid argument either).   As Publisher matures, I would have expected users to author new content in it, supported by the features as they become available.


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I think we have received all the feedback we need for PagePlus import. I will end this thread by saying that if we did produce an importer we would wait until Affinity Publisher supports enough features that the importer would be better than our current PDF import. Sorry but that's best we can say at this time.

 

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