_sorted_ Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Greetings. New to Affinity and come from a Solidworks CAD background. Often have to deal with pictures/plans, like the attached, and then bring them once processed into Solidworks as background images. Bit like this. So questions. I normally convert to black and white and then sharpen. New program new ideas, so any tips please to sharpen up the lines? Would it be best to buy Affinity Designer as it has vector capability that could make black lines crisper? Thank you in anticipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I would go for Affinity Designer for drawing over images like this. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Or try vectorize this lines (for example https://www.vectorizer.io and many others), and editing, redraw something,.. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_sorted_ Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Vectorizer. Been experimenting. Cool. Thank you. Also, Affinity Photo Workbook arrived and noticed the Pen tool and this seems to work well for vector lines. Is there anything that Designer gives me over and above the pen tool that can help? NB: Workbook is terrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted August 21, 2018 Staff Share Posted August 21, 2018 Hi @_sorted_, Welcome to the forums. Well, it's hard to say. Photo is mainly a photo editor with some vector tools, while Designer is a vector software with some photo tools. The best way to see would be to test them both. http://affin.co/designertrial http://affin.co/phototrial Thanks, Gabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_sorted_ Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 Thanks. Trial downloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Hi, _sorted_, I messed w. trying to get something out of the image last night, just before bed. Posting after some sleep. To preface, I find working w. this quality of image madening. It is heavily pixelated, and is blurred. Its the sort of heavily compressed stuff I've been working with for years, and have come to the conclusion that most of the time, it is faster to manually trace over the image, guessing at what some of the faint marks might be. I use Designer a lot more than Photo, and while I suspect Photo would probably give better results if I had more skill, what I was able to get from Designer was about the same. I decided to start w. a brightness/contrast adjustment. I turned the contrast way down, and found what I expected. Compression artifact debris all over. I applied a threshold adjustment to get a more solid line from the grey mess. It was obvious some detail was being lost. And depending on the threshold setting, some lines were being merged in places. So I started over, fiddled w. levels, added some blur to help reduce the jaggies, repeated the above, and got something I thought might be usable. I opened the results in an inexpensive app called Image Vectorizer, and fiddled w. it bit map preprocessing features to try and clean the image some more. To a few tries, but I got something that looked OK. Opened the .SVG in Designer, and saw that it was not very good. See the following, which includes a screen grab showing the hundreds of useless nodes that would have to be removed. Just did a quick test. Removing excess nodes in one line to over a minute. Just redrawing w. pen to 7 seconds. And that after at least .5 hr cleaning the pixels up. Moreover, the processed and vectorized image ends up being less accurate than what I can see from the original .jpg. So, just get handy w. the pen tool's stroke widths and dash line options. Maybe set up some guides to make snapping easier. Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_sorted_ Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 "So, just get handy w. the pen tool's stroke widths and dash line options." My conclusion also and bought designer and workbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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