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Hi Team,

   I noticed the following issues while opening TIFF files. I could only get the top Layer but  I cannot get all the layers. I noticed this issue for the files which were created from Photoshop. I switch from photoshop to Affinity Photo and I wanted to rework these files, but I could not open them now.

Below some screenshots.

If I opened them in Photoshop elements I see all the layers. I used to have full version of photoshop I no longer have the same. They used to open in Photoshop just fine.

When I was switching to Affinity from Photoshop, I thought that I can use all the existing files. This is a big issue for me as I cannot use existing processed files.

Is this a know issue ? 

 

Thanks

Krishna

 

Affinity Issue01.tiff

Affinity Issue02.tiff

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Upload the original Tiff file and I'll see if I can find an export that will retain the layers, PDF might do this.


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PSD would be the best candidate for exchange file format.

AP should be able to open layered TIF images, but you have found some bug in it. 

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That's strange. A lot of my old logo's files done in Photoshop, mainly with pathes since those worked fine in QXP, and saved as .tif open with layers in AD or AP without needing to convert them to PSD (it's the same if converted). But they were created with PS from version 5 to CS5. Perhaps those are older formats, the one documented and readable by other apps?

 

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The information in this post about "layered TIFF" files may be relevant to this discussion.


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The issue seems to happen to only with some of the files which were created from Photoshop. Some files are opening file and others are having this issue. Which prompts me to think that we are hitting some sort of bug.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Krishna Prasad Kotti said:

The issue seems to happen to only with some of the files which were created from Photoshop. Some files are opening file and others are having this issue. Which prompts me to think that we are hitting some sort of bug.

Or, some of the Photoshop files work because they were saved in a way that Affinity can understand (that is, not using undocumented, proprietary PS information) and some fail because they include PS-specific information.

Perhaps you could share examples of ones that work for you?


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3 hours ago, Krishna Prasad Kotti said:

Edit Image in Lightroom, Open the image in Photoshop save them as .tif File

Thanks. I'm still a bit confused. If you simply opened them in PS and saved as .tif where did the layers come from?


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Hi Walt,

  What I meant was previously I used work the image in Lightroom and then in Photoshop. I created layers and adjustments in Photoshop.

Now I am looking to replace the same with Capture1 for RAW processing and then Affinity photo for Layers and other Adjustments.

I thought that old images which were processed in photoshop can be reopened and reworked in Affinity Photo. For some I am able to open them for others I am not.

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2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Thanks. I'm still a bit confused. If you simply opened them in PS and saved as .tif where did the layers come from? 

Long ago, PS'. tif was better than PSD files.  (smaller file size). TIFF retained layers, effects, pathes, alpha channels, etc.  That's why we switch to this format instead of EPS that was only usefull for vector, at a time when people used to save pictures in EPS format too!

At the time, I didn't know it was not a regular TIFF format and was hoping to be able to use/open those files (years) later if we stopped using PS.

I suppose Adobe's TIFF and PSD 've got a lot in common. That's why some TIFF and PSD files are layered and retained PS effects, and can be opened in AP/AD.

.I discovered this after converting those TIFF files to PSD and opening a TIFF (instead of one of the new PSD ones) in AP or AD :)

 

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Could these legacy tiffs be uploaded to one of the online file-conversion sites? Would they read it and convert to (say) psd?

John


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Perhaps it's some more recent filters in CC version of PS (like smart objets that end up as raster layers)... Is the problem occuring only with recent files or with the use of specific effects?

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3 minutes ago, Krishna Prasad Kotti said:

Are there any software to convert them in PSD other than photoshop ?

Googling 'Convert tiff to psd' gives a number of such online services.

John

 


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I tried to do so, as the file sizes are very high they are not allowing to upload. ( I get error file size too high, cannot upload etc).

I hope the Affinity Team can look into the issue which is causing this and fixes the same.

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I opened the image in photoshop elements and then Flattened the image. Still I have the same issue.

So I think it is not a layers issue. Interestingly when saved as psd it shows the file properly.

File size for both files are exactly same.

I am thinking this is a bug with Affinity Photo software itself.

 

Test2.tif

Test2.psd

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Any help for this issue. I would like to have Affinity photo open all the tiff files.

I do not use any Photoshop specific filters.

Even if it cannot show me all the layers, if I can open the image as a whole flattened, then it will also help me.

Is there a way for me to open the image flattened ?

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Hello Krishna ,
I do not know if it solves your problem, maybe a possibility.
I opened your TIF file in Photoshop and stored without alpha channels so I was able to open the TIF file with all layers in Affinity Photo.

Cheers

 

Alhpa.PNG

Test without alpha channels-.PNG

Test-1_without_alpha_channels.tif


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Hello Krishna,

I think it is not a bug in Affinity Photo, the alpha channels of Photoshop especially for TIF files can not read some photo programs. Maybe one of the developers can say something.
There is still the possibility of a free trial of Photoshop, as far as I can remember.

 

Cheers


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