cayenne Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Hello all, I've been behavior I just can't explain. I've seen this on the iPad version and now on the desktop version. Example: I have two images I brought in as a stack, I did auto-align (tried with and without the live align).... I see the stack, I open it up and can see the individual layers, one on top of the other. The blend modes are all set to Normal. For some reason, the lower layers are bleeding through and showing through the topmost layer, even with no masking, etc.....and I'm at a loss to see why? I'm used to PS, where if you stack 2 layers, with nomal blend modes, the top one completely obscures the lower one, unless you mask it off, or have other blend modes enabled. I'm guessing something is set different in AP, I just don't know how to get the behavior I'm expecting. Right now, with both images there...I have them both turned on, again, expecting the top image to completely obscure the bottom one...but it looks strange, and if I turn off the lower layer...the top one becomes to look as it should be without the bottom one bleeding into it. The images I've tried on desktop are .tiff images....the ones on the Ipad that did the same strange thing, were from an iphone emailed to me. Can someone help me out here? I'm just wanting to stack 2 images, and not have the bottom one(s) show through unless I mask out the top later.... Thanks in advance, CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 If you wanted the top image to completely obscure the bottom one, I am not sure why you brought the images in as a stack. But if that is want you want, just ungroup the live stack group. cayenne 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cayenne Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'm not sure I understand...why would stacking layers allow bottom ones to show through to the top? If I don't bring in as a stack...how do I get AP to align the layers...I thought that was the way you brought multiple images in for auto align? Thanks in advance for the reply and suggestions!! CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, cayenne said: I'm not sure I understand...why would stacking layers allow bottom ones to show through to the top? I am not an expert in this area, but I've played with it a bit. From the Affinity Photo Help for Image Stack (with my emphasis): Non-destructive image stacks blend together a series of images based on the same scene or almost identical subject matter. Visual differences between images in the series can then be removed, composited together, or used for creative effects. To me that says that while they remain a stack, they're being blended, and that means that you can't be sure which layer contributed what aspects of the image. 16 minutes ago, cayenne said: If I don't bring in as a stack...how do I get AP to align the layers...I thought that was the way you brought multiple images in for auto align? You have to bring them in as a stack to get the alignment done for you. But after that if you don't intend them to be blended I think you're going to have to ungroup them. cayenne 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cayenne Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: I am not an expert in this area, but I've played with it a bit. From the Affinity Photo Help for Image Stack (with my emphasis): Non-destructive image stacks blend together a series of images based on the same scene or almost identical subject matter. Visual differences between images in the series can then be removed, composited together, or used for creative effects. To me that says that while they remain a stack, they're being blended, and that means that you can't be sure which layer contributed what aspects of the image. You have to bring them in as a stack to get the alignment done for you. But after that if you don't intend them to be blended I think you're going to have to ungroup them. Ok, that worked...but WOW...is that ever UN-intuitive..... I'm still not understanding the stacks blending tho...that does not make sense to me whatsoever.....is there a way to suggest this is a bug or maybe have them at least allow for auto alignment of image layers that come in that are not part of a 'stack'? What would the use case for this current behavior be for? Anyway, this worked and I"m back working again. THANK YOU so much for helping me out everyone!!! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, cayenne said: I'm still not understanding the stacks blending tho... Like the passage @walt.farrell quoted from the Affinity Photo Help topic, this feature is intended to blend together a series of images based on the same or almost the same scene. 27 minutes ago, cayenne said: What would the use case for this current behavior be for? Lots of different things. I suggest watching at least some of the videos in the Live Stacking section of the Official Affinity Photo (Desktop) Video Tutorials page to get an idea of what is possible using the different stacking modes. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cayenne Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Ok thanks. Quick question. What is the preferred method, then....to bring in images as layers, and auto-align them in a simple manner, when wanting to mask and blend them manually , and not do focus stacking, HDR, etc....? This is for desktop and ipad...I don't see a simple method to do this. Thank you all in advance!! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, cayenne said: What is the preferred method, then....to bring in images as layers, and auto-align them in a simple manner, when wanting to mask and blend them manually , and not do focus stacking, HDR, etc....? As R C-R said above bring them in as a layer stack and then ungroup them. (For Desktop, at least; no idea about iPad.) Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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