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The behavior in PS - i can paste bitmap or or use PLACE... as container - no problem. And when i making selection and copying - no any limiting. I can copy and paste from this selection. And no matter the underlying layer is plain raster image or raster image in container (placed with command PLACE..) But in Affinity photo - what the reason to prevent copying in the same way? I want to leave the image as it is and don't want to rasterise it, but want to copy some portion from it - is it wrong idea or behaviour? Until i make command RASTERISE - it copy whole layer and ignoring my selection area. Also when i CUT i just completely removes layer - not selected region. If it not possible - why the AP allow me to use selection tool on this layer? This is non logical. Keep in mind - that for many users the AP is a step from PS.


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1 hour ago, Manofjesus said:

The behavior in PS - i can paste bitmap or or use PLACE... as container - no problem. And when i making selection and copying - no any limiting. I can copy and paste from this selection. And no matter the underlying layer is plain raster image or raster image in container (placed with command PLACE..) But in Affinity photo - what the reason to prevent copying in the same way? I want to leave the image as it is and don't want to rasterise it, but want to copy some portion from it - is it wrong idea or behaviour? Until i make command RASTERISE - it copy whole layer and ignoring my selection area. Also when i CUT i just completely removes layer - not selected region. If it not possible - why the AP allow me to use selection tool on this layer? This is non logical. Keep in mind - that for many users the AP is a step from PS.

Hello @Manofjesus,

the difference between an image layer and a raster layer is that you can resize the image layer as often as you want. From big to small to big again and it will keep its original quality. Only when you rasterize it you have access to the actual pixels.

A good way to have both is to duplicate an image layer, then rasterize and copy the part that you have selected. After you pasted this selection, you can either delete the rasterized layer or turn its visibility of.

This sounds a little more complicated but it has in general big advantages over having images always placed as raster layers.

The help file explains this if you search for 'Place images'.

Cheers,
d.

 


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Again, i understand idea to putting image to container. I appreciate such feature both - in PS and in AP. But i want to copy from such layer by my selected region with selection tool. This is straight plain and logical - this is plain common sense. The AP has just to virtually rasterise underlying image, copy some data from it according to my selection and then paste it - period. Why i need to make duplicate - > rasterise duplicated layer - > After copy and paste delete duplicated layer - why not to automate and hide all this steps from me in just COPY and PASTE way, as it is native in PS ?


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14 minutes ago, Manofjesus said:

why not to automate and hide all this steps from me in just COPY and PASTE way, as it is native in PS ?

This is a fair question. I assume this function will come at some point in the future.

I wonder if it is possible to create a macro that does that? (I'm not good at macros, so far).

d.


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dominik, i also hope for this - but as for me, it is even not function - it is like DNA - the basis (at least it has to be) :)


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3 hours ago, dominik said:

the difference between an image layer and a raster layer is that you can resize the image layer as often as you want. From big to small to big again and it will keep its original quality.

There is no such difference. Both Image and Pixel objects are non-destructively transformable until explicitly rasterised by Rasterise command or implicitly rasterised by a destructive filter.

 

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51 minutes ago, owenr said:

There is no such difference. Both Image and Pixel objects are non-destructively transformable until explicitly rasterised by Rasterise command or implicitly rasterised by a destructive filter.

 

Thank you for pointing this out. I tried this out. Only rasterize turns the layer (image or pixel) into actual pixel size.

Now I am a little confused what the advantage of a placed imaged would be :$
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The placed image will retain all original infos, and you can resize it without loss (smaller, then bigger), or replace it with another image (same as linked files in PS, you need to rasterize them before some actions). 

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