Support of TELUGU LANGUAGE FONT using GOOGLE INPUT TOOLS

[Yaadi Pathkula]

Hi,

I am facing issue using TELUGU Langugage FONT using GOOGLE Language Input Tool.

Letters are not fully displayed as expected and i am unable to figure out and fix the issue.
ANY HELP COULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. This is very critical for me.

[catlover]

1. What is it supposed to look like when correctly displayed ?

Please put an example that is correct.

[Yaadi Pathkula]

"ఇంటర్నేషనల్"

That how it should have been.

[catlover]

It seems like the "accents" above the characters are not in the right position.

They are there, but are shifted in relation to the characters beneath.

Cause may be the font itself, or the space in between characters.

If it is the space in between characters, play around with tweaking the spaces, so that the "accents" are in the correct position

You can even do this one character at the time, by using the character submenu in AffDesigner, see pic.

Movement of the characters is depicted by the little arrows (  <-> )

If it is the font itself, there's not much you can do, other than downloading & trying another Telugu ttf file, there are loads out there.

GoodLuck

[catlover]

As an after thought  for download try Google fonts.

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Dhurjati

[Ganesh]

No luck Catlover, I tried lot of fonts, I would appricite a way to fix the unicode issue.

Edited May 18, 2020 by Ganesh

[kenmcd]

On 6/17/2018 at 10:50 AM, Yaadi Pathkula said:

 

@Ganesh

I loaded the Dhurjati-Regular font from Google Fonts into OpenType Designer.
I used the sample text above as the text ( ఇంటర్నేషనల్ ).
Then I disabled all related OpenType features.
This is what I got:

Notice how it looks exactly like the example.
This tells me none of the needed OpenType features are working.

Then I enabled:
- Above Base Substitutions (abvs)
- Below Base Forms (blwf)
- Below Base Substitutions (blws)
All of those features had an effect on the sample text.

This is what I got with those OpenType features enabled:

Because I do not know your language I do not know if that not looks as you expect.
Does it look correct?

Basically what this seems to say to me is that none of the OpenType features needed to properly
represent the Telugu language is currently working as required.
From many other language related posts it appears that the Affinity folks are aware of these issues.
I have no idea when we can expect a fix.

So unfortunately right now you are out of luck.

 

[Ganesh]

LibreTraining, Thanks for the efforts, sadly the output is not right. I am glad the work in progress to fix this. 

We are training institution and trying to induct Affinity in educational curriculum which be a huge jump in south part of India.

[kenmcd]

22 hours ago, Ganesh said:

LibreTraining, Thanks for the efforts, sadly the output is not right.

Thanks for the feedback. I am trying to get better at testing fonts in different languages.
I did some more testing and confirmed that the OpenType designer in FontCreator is not a good choice for testing.
That kinda surprised me.

LibreOffice (LO) seems to be a better font/language testing tool.
Both the Dhurjati font and Nirmala UI fonts did work properly in LO.
The test text from above looked correct.
Surprisingly Arial Unicode MS did not look right.

Same thing happened with some text I got from Wikipedia Telugu.
Dhurjati and Nirmala UI fonts - looks right.
Arial Unicode MS - looks wrong.

[Proton]

I am also kind of stuck with the same issue. Though putting into Microsoft Word works, but not into Affinity Designer.

[Proton]

Compare Gimp with Affinity for the same font. Gimp is correctly rendering, while Affinity scrambles. Same problem across all Affinity tools

 

[Proton]

The font issues are still not resolved. Gimp and PS handle Indic fonts better. Affinity's challenge is making our work too difficult. The language here is Telugu
నైతిక (See how it is in affinity in screenshot)

ద్రవ్యం (See how it is in affinity in screenshot)

 

Now in Affinity Designer, it shows like this in the attachment.

Example 1:

నైతిక

Let me explain how the glyph should work, (taking first letter alone)

The first letter in first example is pronounced "Na" -> న

When it is added with  a vowel "ai" it becomes "Nai" -> నై , the tick on head is replaced by two extended forms up and down.

Similarly "Ta" -> త

When added with "i", it becomes "Ti" -> తి , the tick replaced with extended form.

In affinity, the tick is retained and added with additional forms. It is almost impossible to work with Indic fonts, and looking for support for almost 4 years on this!

It happens on all UTF-8 fonts. I was just using Arial and others, no behavioral change.

 

 

Example 2:

ద్రవ్యం

The letter is "Da" ->ద

When added with "R" immediately, it becomes "dra" -> ద్ర , a supporting under form added to "da"

Similarly the second letter is "va" -> వ

When added with supporting letter y, it becomes "vya" ->వ్య , a supporting under form added to "va"

Affinity is adding the Original forms of "Y" and "R" separately instead of adding supporting forms ... see the second screen .

 

[Proton]

Guys fix this... I am frustrated to work

[Proton]

Not a single support response!

[walt.farrell]

4 hours ago, Proton said:

Not a single support response!

Serif usually does not respond in the Feedback & Suggestions part of the forum. They read the requests, and use them to help planning their future work, but there's really nothing they could say other than "no" or "we'll think about it", as they do not disclose future plans before they are ready.

[Proton]

Very sad!