The Lightning Phoenix Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 So, hey guys, I've been trying to learn how to draw using Designer, I think I have been making some progress but a simple part that has been bugging me, how do you erase a curve drawn with the Vector Brush Tool ( I don't even know if that is the right tool to be used to draw with) Whenever I try to erase something I did a little while ago I rather not have to undo everything else I have done to get to that point, and rasterizing seems to either make it pixel-ly or still doesn't allow me to erase the stuff I drew before. Am I using the right tool to draw, or do I need to change a setting or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 If you use the Vector Brush Tool, is similar to using the Pen Tool. What I mean by that? That you can only break and delete Nodes from that line. Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lightning Phoenix Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 So there is no direct way to erase it with the eraser tool such as drawing stuff directly into the layer instead of curves under the layer? However, thanks, at least I don't have to redraw everything I did before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Right now there is no Vector Eraser Tool. If I remember correctly, there are plans for it to happen. So, right now: For lines, this is the method I know of (by actually erasing, without masking it). For closed shapes, you could use the the Boolean Operations or a Compound. Like the following example: What I did was simply using the Vector Brush Tool, then I expanded the stroke and created the Compound. Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lightning Phoenix Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Ah, that helps a lot, thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 You are welcome. Best regards! Quote AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toltec Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 18 hours ago, The Lightning Phoenix said: So there is no direct way to erase it with the eraser tool such as drawing stuff directly into the layer instead of curves under the layer? However, thanks, at least I don't have to redraw everything I did before You can "erase" using the Erase brush in the Pixel Persona although what it does is apply a mask layer to the vector curve or shape. Here I "erased" the bottom right part of the polygon. The original shape is still there, unmodified, so you could recover it or even remove or modify the mask. It's not the same as erasing by deleting nodes or using boolean operation as Mitherion describes but it is handy sometimes. Quote Windows PCs. Photo and Designer, latest non-beta versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 19 hours ago, The Lightning Phoenix said: So there is no direct way to erase it with the eraser tool such as drawing stuff directly into the layer instead of curves under the layer? You can't really "erase" part of a vector object, only (as has been mentioned) alter the path that defines it, like with a boolean operation, or by deleting or moving some of its nodes. There is a Knife tool mentioned on the Affinity Designer Roadmap, which should offer another way to do this, but the details of how it will work have not been mentioned. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On May 31, 2018 at 4:59 PM, R C-R said: You can't really "erase" part of a vector object, only (as has been mentioned) alter the path that defines it, like with a boolean operation, or by deleting or moving some of its nodes. There is a Knife tool mentioned on the Affinity Designer Roadmap, which should offer another way to do this, but the details of how it will work have not been mentioned. From that link: "The idea is the list will never get longer. As we complete and release features then we will replace those features with new ones." I wish we knew how far down on the unseen part of the list a vector erase tool is . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, JimmyJack said: I wish we knew how far down on the unseen part of the list a vector erase tool is . I do not see a vector erase tool on the list, just a Knife tool, which I assume will cut a shape into two shapes (or maybe more if it path based). Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, R C-R said: I do not see a vector erase tool on the list, just a Knife tool, which I assume will cut a shape into two shapes (or maybe more if it path based). LOL yes I see that too. My point is that the list doesn't get any longer than what it is. When something is completed, something on the unseen "waiting" list takes it's place. That means vector erase could be #13 or #43 for all we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 hours ago, JimmyJack said: That means vector erase could be #13 or #43 for all we know. So how would this vector erase work? Unless it is some kind of brush-based tool, what would it do that a path-based knife tool could not? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchshader Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 @R C-R the erase brush https://youtu.be/nV0Dx3ExIEc JimmyJack 1 Quote intel core i5, 16GB 128Gb ssd win10 Pro Huion new 1060plus. philips 272p 2560x1440px on intel HD2500 onboard graphics Razer Tartarus Chroma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, dutchshader said: @R C-R the erase brush https://youtu.be/nV0Dx3ExIEc So you want a (round only?) brush based eraser tool? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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R C-R Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, owenr said: You "paint" an invisible vector shape which is Boolean subtracted on-the-fly from vector objects. So I assumed from the videos. However, as I understand it the shape is always invisible & circular, with the only its diameter being adjustable, as if it was a round brush. Personally, I would much rather have a path based Knife tool that let me see exactly where I was cutting, complete with options similar to the Pen & Node tools for defining the cutting path. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, R C-R said: as I understand it the shape is always invisible & circular I don’t see any reason why the shape needs to be either invisible or circular. It could be displayed using a semitransparent colour, like the ‘Refine Selection’ brush, and there could be a choice of several shapes. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJack Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, R C-R said: So I assumed from the videos. However, as I understand it the shape is always invisible & circular, with the only its diameter being adjustable, as if it was a round brush. Yes it's like a brush. It's like the knife tool with area. Not invisible per se, there's an outline just like a raster brush. And not always circular. U can adjust the angle and width... Zero width is a straight edge. And you can set all that up to respond to a stylus using all the usual inputs: pressure speed etc. Or u can just alt drag out a perfect square or rectangle shape. Can also be used to erase whole objects when each it touched. But what I like most is that I can just flip my pen around and just start erasing like an (interactive adjustable) eraser on the back of a pencil. Think of it as reductive sculpting while using the same sketch pen motion. 1 hour ago, R C-R said: Personally, I would much rather have a path based Knife tool that let me see exactly where I was cutting, complete with options similar to the Pen & Node tools for defining the cutting path. Okay. But you can see how others might really like it. Right?? I don't think it's a one vs the other type of situation. They do quite different things. For precision work, of course I'm going to get it there with more control. I like/want the knife functionality too... and scissor action to boot! lepr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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R C-R Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 49 minutes ago, JimmyJack said: I don't think it's a one vs the other type of situation. No, obviously it is not. However, a knife tool is on the list & promised for version 1. Just guessing, but I suspect an eraser tool like you described is not going to be a v1 feature. What I hope for in V1 is a path based knife tool like I described (with support for nodes & such). 38 minutes ago, owenr said: Of course, but R C-R is in his usual naysayer mode. One day I am confident you will understand the difference between expressing a personal preference & naysaying. But apparently today is not that day. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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