Modifying and Saving to SVG

[saivan]

I have a situation where I create an svg in affinity designer, and then I have to modify some of the resulting svg plaintext by hand.

I would then like to open the exported svg into designer, make some changes and then save it out to the same file.

 

The primary issue I'm having is that if I export a new svg, all of my edits are gone.

Is there some way to modify an svg and leave all of the elements I don't touch alone?

[Callum]

Hi Saivan,

 

If possible could you provide the file in question and list the elements that have gone missing?

 

Thanks

Callum

[saivan]

I suppose then this begs a different question. Is there a way to save an svg that I imported after changing it?

 

For example, the most common thing that gets me is the text handling. If I have a text element with a text-anchor set,

if I import it into designer, and export it again; the text anchor disappears.

Then theres class names, and pretty much any feature that designer doesn't natively export.

 

[firstdefence]

All apps that export SVG will have variations on the SVG theme, some using things like polyline others using polygon etc. There are also SVG optimisation apps and command line that will strip things like metadata and compress code to get smaller files. Affinity Designer exports different code to say Sketch, and both export slightly differently to Inkscape, the only options are to manually edit to your desired code or find an app that will give you as near as damn it the code you need.

 

Wouldn't it be nice if you could specify the tags you would like to use when exporting to SVG, how very modern would that be.

 

 

[saivan]

I agree that all of the apps might export differently, but just like you can import a jpeg, make changes to the jpeg and save the file out to a jpeg; I'd expect the same thing to work for an svg. If I hand write an svg, it would be nice to open it with designer, change the color of a line and then export it without completely changing my code  It just makes working with svgs very difficult if you can't do that.

 

Because if I need to author content for the web, I will need to modify the svg that comes out of designer in some way,

then I'm asked to change something with the visual style, so its back to designer, change all the tags, export again, make all changes again.

It just makes it impossible to have designer as part of a workflow.

[firstdefence]

Do you have a file we can look at?

 

I assume you have tried all of the SVG export options, like export for web?

 

There's a lot to be said for hand coding...

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[saivan]

Sure, I'll make a simple example. Heres a file straight from w3 https://www.w3schools.com/graphics/tryit.asp?filename=trysvg_line

If I import it into designer, then save it back out again, heres the new markup:

 

Original

<svg height="210" width="500">
  <line class="testClass" x1="0" y1="0" x2="200" y2="200" style="stroke:rgb(255,0,0);stroke-width:2" />
  Sorry, your browser does not support inline SVG.
</svg>

If I open it with designer, and attempt to change only the color of the line and save, it prompts me to save it as an .afdesign file. This doesn't make sense for an svg. But then I understand thats what the export persona is supposed to do. So I go ahead and export with the export persona and I get this markup:

 

Modified

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd">
<svg width="100%" height="100%" viewBox="0 0 500 210" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xml:space="preserve" xmlns:serif="http://www.serif.com/" style="fill-rule:evenodd;clip-rule:evenodd;">
    <path d="M0,0L200,200" style="fill-rule:nonzero;stroke:#0072ff;stroke-width:2px;"/>
</svg>

Now a few things should be noted here:

• The class I added to the line was gone
• (less of a problem) the line was converted to a path
• The width and height I had just changed
• The browser support text I added is gone

I think the export persona should have an svg tab added that imports the extra attributes from each element, and lets us add our own attributes like classes, or even some custom attributes that we might need for our application. That way, when we need to make a change to the artwork, we don't need to painstakingly modify the output code by hand all the time. 

 

Just scrolling through the forums, it seems a lot of the users are using designer to author content for the web. Its really the big pain point for me in switching from illustrator, even though I prefer to use designer so much more, its just currently not practical to add to my workflow just yet.

[firstdefence]

21 minutes ago, saivan said:

Sure, I'll make a simple example. Heres a file straight from w3 https://www.w3schools.com/graphics/tryit.asp?filename=trysvg_line

If I import it into designer, then save it back out again, heres the new markup:

 

Original

<svg height="210" width="500">
  <line class="testClass" x1="0" y1="0" x2="200" y2="200" style="stroke:rgb(255,0,0);stroke-width:2" />
  Sorry, your browser does not support inline SVG.
</svg>

If I open it with designer, and attempt to change only the color of the line and save, it prompts me to save it as an .afdesign file. This doesn't make sense for an svg. But then I understand thats what the export persona is supposed to do. So I go ahead and export with the export persona and I get this markup:

 

Modified

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd">
<svg width="100%" height="100%" viewBox="0 0 500 210" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xml:space="preserve" xmlns:serif="http://www.serif.com/" style="fill-rule:evenodd;clip-rule:evenodd;">
    <path d="M0,0L200,200" style="fill-rule:nonzero;stroke:#0072ff;stroke-width:2px;"/>
</svg>

Now a few things should be noted here:

• The class I added to the line was gone
• (less of a problem) the line was converted to a path
• The width and height I had just changed
• The browser support text I added is gone

I think the export persona should have an svg tab added that imports the extra attributes from each element, and lets us add our own attributes like classes, or even some custom attributes that we might need for our application. That way, when we need to make a change to the artwork, we don't need to painstakingly modify the output code by hand all the time. 

 

Just scrolling through the forums, it seems a lot of the users are using designer to author content for the web. Its really the big pain point for me in switching from illustrator, even though I prefer to use designer so much more, its just currently not practical to add to my workflow just yet.

 

I agree, being able to have some form of tag preset option would be a very attractive option for web designers, thinking out of the "view box" would make Affinity an attractive option for many potential users, being able to customise SVG export to this level would be a boon to many people.

 

There is no customisable option for your needs, Even in File > Export... > SVG: SVG for Web: More... there are no options that will ultimately prevent removing classes etc. I think once you start to hand-code an SVG, your hands are tied and the only option is to continue hand-coding.

 

But until such a thing could be implemented you will have to find an app that can fit your workflow because Affinity Designer isn't going to change their export options anytime soon, unless they have improved their SVG export in the 1.7 version.

 

I wish I could code, I'd make the ultimate SVG creator and be rich 

 

Might be an idea to add a feature request for your idea

[saivan]

Well, its a shame because I can't imagine it would be to hard to add this sort of thing. I mean after-all, it would just be an option to attach exportable attributes to particular layers. Its literally just adding text But how exactly would we go about making a feature request anyway?

[firstdefence]

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/forum/6-feature-requests-suggestions-and-feedback/

 

Post here and lets hope they take onboard this great idea.

[saivan]

Thanks, I just did that  

[firstdefence]

Awesome, fingers crossed 

[firstdefence]

Just found this: http://www.drawsvg.org/drawsvg.html it allows classes etc, could do with a redesign to be honest and made to look a bit slicker but might be worth a look, would be nice to see a code window though. might be worth chatting to the creator to see if it can be improved.

[saivan]

Needs a fair bit of work. I don't see myself ditching affinity any time soon for it