DuncanS Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I'm an experienced Illustrator user that is struggling with such a basic function. In the graphic, I draw a square, I then draw a ellipse on top of that square, then using minus back I punch through the square, giving me one object. I want to know how to remove that ellipse again without only deleting one node at a time In illustrator you would be able to double click on the object, and interact with the ellipse independently – e.g. move it / remove it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Welcome to the Serif Affinity Forums, Duncan. By default the Geometry commands in the Affinity apps are destructive. If you want to be able to manipulate the subtracted shape, hold down the Option/Alt key when you click on the ‘Subtract’ icon: this will create a Compound object whose component parts can be selected via the Layers panel. firstdefence and DuncanS 2 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.3.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toltec Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, DuncanS said: I'm an experienced Illustrator user that is struggling with such a basic function. In the graphic, I draw a square, I then draw a ellipse on top of that square, then using minus back I punch through the square, giving me one object. I want to know how to remove that ellipse again without only deleting one node at a time In illustrator you would be able to double click on the object, and interact with the ellipse independently – e.g. move it / remove it I'm not sure how your "minus back"creates a square with a hole, but normally, I would put the ellipse on top of the square, select both and go Layer > Geometry > Subtract (a boolean operation) which would do it. Layer > Geometry > Divide would return it to two shapes. or do as Alfred suggests and create a compound path which is easily edited. Quote Windows PCs. Photo and Designer, latest non-beta versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanS Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Thank you, using the option key to create a compound works a treat for most situations ........ taking it further, a common function i'd use in Illustrator is "inset path" then expand that path and quickly delete the elements I need leaving me a single path round the outside for creating cutpaths for cutting out graphics. As far as I know the workaround in Affinity is to apply strokes and then expand strokes and take it from there, please correct me if i'm wrong on this. Assuming you have to cheat this way to achieve an 'inset path' I'm just hoping there is a way to create again a compound path so I can manipulate as illustrated here (hopefully) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted May 2, 2018 Staff Share Posted May 2, 2018 Hi DuncanS, Welcome to Affinity Forums Yes you have to use the expand strokes method to achieve this. Regarding the question/issue on your screen capture you can separate the holes of the A going to menu Layer ▸ Geometry ▸ Divide to break curves layers (note the S) into their individual paths then add then use boolean operations (subtract or add) to recreate the intended shape. Alternatively select the Node Tool and delete all the internal nodes of the curve shape leaving just the nodes of the outer path. Here's a clip for the second method: Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference | Call for Camera Images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanS Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Divide works a treat, thank you one and all!!! Onwards and upwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 7 hours ago, MEB said: Hi DuncanS, Welcome to Affinity Forums Yes you have to use the expand strokes method to achieve this. Regarding the question/issue on your screen capture you can separate the holes of the A going to menu Layer ▸ Geometry ▸ Divide to break curves layers (note the S) into their individual paths then add then all again using the Add boolean operation. Alternatively select the Node Tool and delete all the internal nodes of the curve shape leaving just the nodes of the outer path. Here's a clip for the second method: I think you got a bit carried away deleting those nodes lol! DuncanS 1 Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted May 2, 2018 Staff Share Posted May 2, 2018 No, i did want to get the external outline only. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference | Call for Camera Images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, MEB said: No, i did want to get the external outline only. Oh I thought Duncan wanted to have the white left in. DuncanS 1 Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted May 2, 2018 Staff Share Posted May 2, 2018 You're right. I misunderstood his post. I think he got the idea anyway. It's just a question of leaving the hole's nodes there and delete all the others except the outer outline's modes. [EDIT] Instructions and clip corrected. DuncanS 1 Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference | Call for Camera Images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Another way to finish off if node deleting aint your bag. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, MEB said: You're right. I misunderstood his post. I think he got the idea anyway. I certainly did, always learning from you guys Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted May 2, 2018 Staff Share Posted May 2, 2018 I also mentioned the break curves/boolean operation method (although again to get the whole shape filled). Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference | Call for Camera Images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, MEB said: I also mentioned the boolean operation method. Thought I'd demo it for posterity lol! Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Staff MEB Posted May 2, 2018 Staff Share Posted May 2, 2018 Original post with instructions and clip corrected. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference | Call for Camera Images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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