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To be fair, you should be able to drag and drop colours from "Colour" into swatches.. or the gradient in the context bar, or anywhere else that has colour/gradients.

Regarding the icons, the only people who think they are good are those who already know what they do. They are defiantly not intuitive without prior knowledge.

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1 hour ago, ziplock9000 said:

They are defiantly not intuitive without prior knowledge.

It's not too reasonable to expect a rather complex software (despite the swatches panel among many other things being really NOT complex ...) to be all self explanatory and learning-by-doing-friendly, if you know what you're missing you'll find it faster in the documentation or on youtube than writing a forum post ... it's like going from windows to mac and claiming it's bad because you let no one explain

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Just chiming in to echo "Swatches needs work"

It's not intuitive. Some Examples:

If I have Grays selected as palette:
- Clicking "Add current fill to palette" does nothing.
- Clicking Hamburger > "Add Global Color" brings up the dialog, but does nothing.

If I have Colors selected as palette:
- Clicking "Add current fill to palette" does nothing.
- Clicking Hamburger > "Add Global Color" brings up the dialog, but does nothing.

If I have Gradients selected as palette:
- Clicking "Add current fill to palette" works. It adds the current color to the palette.
- Clicking Hamburger > "Add Global Color" brings up the dialog, but does nothing.

If I have Custom Application Palette selected as palette:
- Clicking "Add current fill to palette" works. It adds the current color to the palette.
- Clicking Hamburger > "Add Global Color" brings up the dialog, but does nothing.

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I'm guessing Global colors are not usable in application palettes. That would be a nice, expected feature, but I can understand that it doesn't work.

I think part of the confusion is that Affinity defaults into a Application palette where all of the features don't work even though there are button for them.

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"Add current fill to palette" and "Add current fill to palette as global color" buttons:
- These are grouped with the Palette menu, makes me think they are related to adding a palette. I can overlook that placement though...
- These should just be one button with a "+" image. When pressed should have the functionality of Hamburger > Add Global Color. Of course, then, that dialog should be renamed to "Add Color" and have the global option in it.
- I use spot colors 99% of the time. I have to use the hamburger every time I add a color, so the UI buttons are almost useless.

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When I click on the palette menu, PLEASE show the list starting from the top. Having to scroll up after I open the dropdown is annoying. Yes, small gripe.

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Also... Why do spot colors have two names? a "Global Color" name and a "Spot" name... 😕
 

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2 minutes ago, AmDivVal said:

I'm guessing Global colors are not usable in application palettes. That would be a nice, expected feature, but I can understand that it doesn't work.

You don't have to guess about that, as they are documented as requiring a Document Palette.

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1 hour ago, thatGuy said:

It's not too reasonable to expect a rather complex software (despite the swatches panel among many other things being really NOT complex ...) to be all self explanatory and learning-by-doing-friendly, if you know what you're missing you'll find it faster in the documentation or on youtube than writing a forum post ... it's like going from windows to mac and claiming it's bad because you let no one explain

Mate I'm a Senior software engineer, I use some of the most complicated applications there are and have developed several myself over the decades. When a UI designer can spend 2 minutes making an icon appear obvious as to what it represents to a much wider audience and don't, there's no excuse. Application complexity is never an excuse.

Here's another related example that should just work.
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I had the same question and unfortunately the posted documentation doesn't actually answer the question.  It does not good to post a Swatch Palette and then not explain how to get to that point in the program.

I've looked everywhere and can't find anything that looks like what is in the picture.  The View Menu says nothing about that palette  nor does it appear in the GUI anywhere that I can see.

 

 

 

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Does this help shed a little light on how to create a swatch? The quality is not that great, hopefully it will work for you.

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