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friends and neighbours,

i just designed a nice little ad in affinity designer only to find out that the german "umlaute" i.e. ä,ü,ö, DO NOT show up in the pdf for print. they do show in affinity designer while i am working. what to do? or where do i have to change something because like this all my work was for naught.

thanks for all the assistance you can give me,

tomas

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Hi tnittner,

We can certainly look into this for you, in the meantime could you supply us with a copy of the .afdesigner file you are working on? :)

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When I open the PDF file in PDF-XChange Editor, I get the message "Errors detected in the XREF table".  Saving a copy corrects that problem but doesn't restore the missing characters.

 

There are umlauts in the word München“ at the bottom, but that seems to use a mixture of Frutiger Light Condensed and Lucida Grande, and those umlauts are slightly offset. The telephone numbers in that section are followed by a ì character, which I suspect should be either a telephone symbol or an 'i-in-a-circle' (for information).

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This shows me.

 

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I recommend changing the font.

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P.S. Maybe a little retouch the guiding lines :-)

 

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Well fonts are embedded as subgroups as default here for the PDF export and it seems that for certain fonts here the umlauts are mismatched. - If you don't need to keep embedded editable fonts inside, let the export convert them to shapes (or convert the text paragraphs manually to shapes before exporting) instead.

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thanks much for all your answers. 1. i have been working with frutiger in indesign ever since it came out, i almost exclusively work with it and i never had the problem. 2. the title in oil pastel is purposely done like a child's drawing. 3. here is thwe af-designer file i am working with. let's see if one of you venerable pundits could give me an answer...

tomas

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Thanks for that tnittner, I have exported your document as a PDF, selecting More > Rasterise > Everything and this seems to work as a workaround. See the PDF and screenshot attached.5ab3d1ef1f589_EXPSET.JPG.5ab87b5ab5e850abbeeaf8f1e3e65d62.JPG

anzeige_320x110 rast.pdf

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Hmm … rather than rasterizing everything, I would suggest that you try Convert text to curves in PDF export first. Does that work? :)

 

Oh, and as an aside, what about using correct German punctuation in your ad? Please use

  • Mit feinen Arrangements schafft der „Paganini des Kontrabasses“ …
  • „Ich singe durch mein Instrument.“

instead of

  • Mit feinen Arrangements schafft der "Paganini des Kontrabasses" …
  • "Ich singe durch mein Instrument".

and avoid these basic typographical mistakes. :)

 

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5 minutes ago, tnittner said:

thanks @a_b_c, i have been searching where i could change the quotes, but eventually gave up. could you tell me where i can find the appropriate menu for that?

I'm not sure there's a menu setting for that. It may simply be a matter of which quotes you type, or what kind of keyboard you're using. Have you tried simply copying the correct German quotes from his post, and pasting them into your document?

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19 minutes ago, tnittner said:

thanks @a_b_c, i have been searching where i could change the quotes, but eventually gave up. could you tell me where i can find the appropriate menu for that?

 

You can use the Glyph Browser to insert any characters which are not directly available via your keyboard. Alternatively, use an online utility such as TypeIt.

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You can also use guillemets for your purpose:

  • Mit feinen Arrangements schafft der »Paganini des Kontrabasses« …
  • »Ich singe durch mein Instrument.«

Or single guillemets:

  • Mit feinen Arrangements schafft der ›Paganini des Kontrabasses‹ …
  • ›Ich singe durch mein Instrument.‹

But usually, single guillemets are not used for quotes in German texts, unless in special contexts. So at least for the second example, I would not use the single guillemets. Still under the assumption that you have a German keyboard layout, you can access these characters in the following way:

  • » ] (Guillemet links/öffnend): Shift + Option [Alt] + Q
  • « ] (Guillemet rechts/schließend): Option [Alt] + Q
  • [  ] (einfaches Guillemet links/öffnend): Shift + Option [Alt] + N
  • [  ] (einfaches Guillemet rechts/schließend): Shift + Option [Alt] + B

Hope that helps … :)

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