aekorps Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Should be the default in my opinion, but Affinity really needs to add this functionality into the rounded rectangle tool and any other rounding algorithms. Short answer: "Squircles" are what make Apple products have "more than rounded" corners. Great article here: https://hackernoon.com/apples-icons-have-that-shape-for-a-very-good-reason-720d4e7c8a14 WalterBeiter, wtrmlnjuc, lepr and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Hi @aekorps, please see also this post from a couple of days ago: Just for your information that a similar (not same) topic is here already. d. Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekorps Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Thanks @dominik, but I don't need to "see" the combs, I just want to be able to have "rounder"/smoother curves like the above diagram shows. wtrmlnjuc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 8 hours ago, aekorps said: Thanks @dominik, but I don't need to "see" the combs, I just want to be able to have "rounder"/smoother curves like the above diagram shows. I understand. Well, there is already a corner tool with variations of corners. This is perhaps the place where the squircle corners can find their future home in ADe d. Raptor Swire and JET_Affinity 2 Quote Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekorps Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 That would be fine. As long as it's *somewhere*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arifandi Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I would also love to have this on Affinity Designer. SketchApp had this function for quite a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekorps Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 Yes, it's been in Sketch for a while already: This is similar to Apple surface finishing for real products. It might seem like a small thing, but visually it makes a difference. garrettm30, wtrmlnjuc, lepr and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorox Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I don't see any necessity to make this the default mode. In my opinion the "straight" geometric way – that is seeing rounded corners of a rectangle as regular quarter circles – is the purest way of looking at rounded corners. It might be a welcome option, though, to have the other way ("Apple rounded corners") as an alternative of choice. JET_Affinity and garrettm30 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekorps Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 @Lorox It might not seem like a big deal, but once you see how much better rounded corners anti-alias with the "Smart" rounding, even at small pixel sizes, it's impossible (for me at least) to un-see it. It just looks way better and smoother. In addition to that, creating app icons for iPhone/iPad software, etc REQUIRES this type of rounding to match the radius of the app icon itself should you want to use any outlines, etc around the icon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunM Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Adding a vote to this; for me this is a subtle but important tool needed for my workflow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 11/18/2018 at 7:01 AM, Lorox said: I don't see any necessity to make this the default mode. In my opinion the "straight" geometric way – that is seeing rounded corners of a rectangle as regular quarter circles – is the purest way of looking at rounded corners. It might be a welcome option, though, to have the other way ("Apple rounded corners") as an alternative of choice. I agree that it would be nice to have both options available; I personally don't care which one is the default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekorps Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 If this could work with shapes that are NOT procedural/parametric default shapes, that would make it much more useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 17 hours ago, aekorps said: If this could work with shapes that are NOT procedural/parametric default shapes, that would make it much more useful. How would it be any different from what could be achieved by adjusting the control handles and the positions of the individual nodes that make up the shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekorps Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 9:56 AM, fde101 said: How would it be any different from what could be achieved by adjusting the control handles and the positions of the individual nodes that make up the shape? It would be smoother around angles. Same as it would be around a square or any other shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, aekorps said: It would be smoother around angles. Same as it would be around a square or any other shape. You can do that already by adjusting the control handles on the curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekorps Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, fde101 said: You can do that already by adjusting the control handles on the curve. Unless it's using Continuous Curvature rounding, it wouldn't be as smooth as that method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterBeiter Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 This would be definitely a great thing! I really like the Sketch implementation and AD should have that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JET_Affinity Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 11/18/2018 at 7:01 AM, Lorox said: I don't see any necessity to make this the default mode. In my opinion the "straight" geometric way – that is seeing rounded corners of a rectangle as regular quarter circles – is the purest way of looking at rounded corners. It might be a welcome option, though, to have the other way ("Apple rounded corners") as an alternative of choice. Agree. I have nothing against this as an optional feature (although it would be so far down on my feature wish-list , given all the other more important things still needing work in Affinity) but... Just because a (frankly, rather esoteric) geometric shape has been implemented by Apple as part of its branding design, does not mean such a currently vogue designerly fad should be foisted upon everyone else as a default. By way of analogy, consider Inkscape's Spiro curves. It's certainly a very useful and even innovative feature for creating continually-circular curves, and I would even argue that it would be more highly valued than 'squircles'—were more designers aware of it—because it is more broadly versatile. But that certainly doesn't mean it should be implemented as a default for Bezier drawing behavior, either. No matter how in-vogue it may be in the context of page design, consider, for example, the ramifications on the entire realm of technical illustration were it implemented as a default. Common radiused corners and edges of physical parts are not machined this way. Even from a design standpoint, I dare say the current trendy infatuation with this will fade, as did pinstripes on Mac cases. JET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorox Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, JET_Affinity said: No matter how in-vogue it may be in the context of page design, consider, for example, the ramifications on the entire realm of technical illustration were it implemented as a default. Common radiused corners and edges of physical parts are not machined this way. Good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunM Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Certainly agree this should be optional, as other design tools have implemented it. For us, this feature is becoming increasingly important part of our workflow in producing assets, for which we now have hoop jumping of creating the curves we need in other design tools, exporting the curves and then importing them into AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aekorps Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 Sorry, Jet, but something being "in-vogue" has nothing to do with it. And yes, it is used in creating physical parts by a lot more companies than just Apple. It's called a C3 curve in manufacturing and CAD and it's used to create corners that smoothly transition from one surface to another. If you don't see the benefit, please ignore the post. When something comes along that is clearly better, it should be embraced, in my opinion. This has nothing with a single implementation of "squircles". It's about ALL rounding algorithms in general as I said in my original post. Apple simply uses it in their graphics because it mirrors their manufacturing processes, and they (and I) think it looks better. If it was used by default, it would more likely adopted across the board and we could stop using the old (hideous) curves. ChipInMonth, wtrmlnjuc and madame fleur 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konstantnnn Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Completely unaware that this topic exists, I have created this one with even a possible suggestion how this could be implemented in the UI. Quote Hackintosh running Big Sur 11.2.3, Coffe Lake i3 with UHD630 graphics MacBook (Early 2015) running macOS Mojave iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation) running iPadOS 13.5 Vista PC in the attic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madame fleur Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I'd love to see this implemented! Maybe not as the default, but definitely as an option. Playing with handles in hopes that my rounded corners look decently natural and smooth is incredibly tiring 😣 konstantnnn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Heath Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I would have thought it would be straightforward enough to implement using ellipses. Here is my take on Apple’s rounded corners. https://www.designbygeometry.com/ios-icon-mask-corner-curve-study/ Alfred 1 Quote You can: find my website here: www.geometrical.design buy fabric, wallpaper and home decor items that feature my work on Spoonflower join the Geometrical Design Secrets community on Facebook check my work out on Behance, and see me teaching at Geometrical Design School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konstantnnn Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 11:56 AM, Chris Heath said: I would have thought it would be straightforward enough to implement using ellipses. Here is my take on Apple’s rounded corners. https://www.designbygeometry.com/ios-icon-mask-corner-curve-study/ its not on par and not of acceptable quality. Quote Hackintosh running Big Sur 11.2.3, Coffe Lake i3 with UHD630 graphics MacBook (Early 2015) running macOS Mojave iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation) running iPadOS 13.5 Vista PC in the attic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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