v_kyr Posted January 29, 2018 Posted January 29, 2018 I always wonder that in AP there is no direct way to apply a transparent color adjustment gradient fade, which would be pretty useful for macros to have. When recording macros one actually can only use an adjustment gradient or a fx gradient effect, but the first one (which I would prefer to use for quick turn arounds) doesn't allow to alter/setup a linear gradient color transparency ... ... the fx effect in turn allows to setup this but works on a whole pixel layer and not an adjustment mask level. Also the usual gradient tool allows to setup such color->trancparency fades, but isn't recordable in macros at all. Any reason why an adjustment gradient (see the top shown panel) doesn't offer to setup a opacity color aka transparent fade here? - That looks somehow like an option omission to me. Polygonius 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
v_kyr Posted January 30, 2018 Author Posted January 30, 2018 The differences in gradient handling are pretty confusing and IMO inconsistent. An adjustment gradient, which can be recorded in macros, doesn't support... no color node opacity support no reusable transparent fade presets no typ setup no custom swatch field reuse ...and thus is somehow of limited flexible use here in contrast to the other ones, from which BTW only the FX gradient one also can be recorded in macros. Polygonius 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
carl123 Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Not sure exactly what you want to do here But a gradient with transparency can be saved as a Style then the Style can be applied to an object in a macro Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
Polygonius Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 I´m completly with you: The gradient-tool(s) (plural) are completely inconsistent. Most of them forgot it last settings (one minute ago) and restart with this often useless 50% grey/white. And the "adjustment/filter-gradients" does not allow to load a style in it, nor support "presets" for itself.... BTW: the whole concept, the "abuse" of gradients / brushes for transparency effects is unnecessary confusing / wide windowed. Instead to PAINT/ERASE (or gradient) filter/adjustment with the black/white, maybe on special masks... that could be much faster and less confusing with an special tool like opacity/transparency or dry/wet or whatever called. This tool (or mode) is ALLWAYS 100% opacity on one side and 0% on the other side. In case of a brush the strong-parameter defines the grey-value (compairing to the usally filter/adjustment...-brushing) and in case of a "gradient" each point is just a value of transparancy. A nice side-effect i never lost my real colors i use for real brushing or give a frame... Do not know, but in AD there is something similar tool, but especially with lot of pixel-layers (montaging) such tools would make sense. If a pixel is selcted and i "open" the drywet gradient (or brush) there will come automatically a nested mask for it. I do my transparancy stunts and asap i´m happy i will rasterize. The real holy grail would be, if such tools would be smart as the NIK control-points. If i define a target-color the "transparancy gradient/brush" works as deeper as nearer the pixels on the target-color. But for the first run, i take this tools without this special advantage. Just make clear that each stop-point can edit directly here (on the "line") without a need to open a "color-box" or other unnecessary extra-clicks. General in GUI-concepts use this paradigm: As less clicks as absolutly necessary, as most direct as possible!!!! If a popup do not bring a really advantage, then avoid it, and search for a more direct way! v_kyr 1 Quote OSX 12.5 / iMac Retina 27" / Radeon Pro 580X / Metall: on! --- WWG1WGA WW!
v_kyr Posted January 31, 2018 Author Posted January 31, 2018 8 hours ago, carl123 said: Not sure exactly what you want to do here But a gradient with transparency can be saved as a Style then the Style can be applied to an object in a macro I hardly do miss the color opacity setting in a common adj gradient map panel, as it's shown here ( or on youtube directly). That would allow a much quicker less steps setup and 1:1 way take over for a bunch of PS actions I have to convert. So I overall wonder why it has been changed, that's the main point and that this spoils equality and behaves inconsistently. I know that there are other ways to do it for macros, though then with unnecessary extra work and more involved steps. R C-R 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
v_kyr Posted January 31, 2018 Author Posted January 31, 2018 @Polygonius Yes the different treatment of those is slightly confusing and should ideally offer instead the same equal adjustments settings here. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
R C-R Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, v_kyr said: I hardly do miss the color opacity setting in a common adj gradient map panel, as it's shown here ( or on youtube directly). I am guessing you probably mean that you greatly miss the opacity setting but regardless, you have made it very clear by comparing the video to the current Mac Affinity Photo version that the color stop opacity setting has gone MIA: From the August 2015 video publishing date & its lack of a Tone Mapping Persona, my guess is the AP version in the video must be 1.34 or 1.3.5, but I have no idea if the opacity setting was still there in the 1.4.x or 1.5.x versions. v_kyr 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
v_kyr Posted January 31, 2018 Author Posted January 31, 2018 @R C-R Yes I highly wonder why this has been removed at all, since former versions had it and it would be pretty useful to have there on an adjustment mask level too (...though the type {radial, elliptic, etc.} is still missing on both shown variants). - The older bottom version looks similar to the PS one in usage for adjustment gradients (with transparency settings) and thus mostly like a 1:1 way of adapting things then. I can only guess that they may had some behavioral bugs or interoperation AD/AP problems then and probably thus removed it in the meantime, otherwise I don't see any reason why not to offer useful opacity setting here. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
Polygonius Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 Not here: "booth" gradients (regular.one and from fx-panel) offers the transparency-fader in 1.67 (beta). But booth are small different to handle and only the regular accept styles or pallette-"colors" as "dragover", but on the other hand only the fx-gradient remembers last settings when "apply" to a pixel-layer, the regular will forgot... ALL preste -systems in AP (taken the best parts of each of them... will be a good preset system, but isolated, this syem jas this feature and lacks on other questions and the next supports other things, but lacks on other squestions... what kind of mixmatch is that????) However, booth lacks and has no consistency, and the "pseudo-brush-black-white-concept" for masking will destroy all colors for regularly brushing/gradient... So a dedicted "transparence brsuh/gradient" would be useful! EDIT: ups, sorry you are talking about the gradient-adjustment???? Well, even in 1.67 there is no transparancy anymore! Another reason to make all this more consistend!!!! This is un-necessary confusing / need to adapt / re-learn without any really advantage!!!!! Or is there any advantage??? Quote OSX 12.5 / iMac Retina 27" / Radeon Pro 580X / Metall: on! --- WWG1WGA WW!
v_kyr Posted February 1, 2018 Author Posted February 1, 2018 Yes I meant the adjustment gradient here, see also the above comparison images from R C-R ... ... which BTW also in contrast only supports a linear flow type here. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
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