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¿HowTo: Convert between Art Text and Frame Text?


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I second to this. I have figures imported in the PDF format, and depends on the software that generated the PDF (in my case is the R-ggplot2 package), some time texts comes in "Framed text" (like, a hundred of them), but I would prefer to use "Artistic text". 

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Anything yet? :)

 

P.S. For whatever's sake please stop challenging the premise. People need it and it should be there. Of course they know they can copy-paste, and they "could have created it right in the first place". Such comments are simply non-empathetic. At least from the data model pov it should be there – your application has two types for same commodity of data, then it would only be beneficial for the users to allow converting between them. That's it.

P.P.S As a long time avid CorelDraw user (before they 'effed up their multi-platform licensing) who could never fully like Illustrator, Affinity is a breath of fresh air. Just few nudges here and there and it'd be a perfect replacement for both.

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On 10/11/2017 at 11:33 AM, Alfred said:

If you’re going to be changing the content frequently and you often add extra lines, why not create it as a single line of Frame Text in the first place? :/

Like others in this thread I start for specific types of layouts with art-text just because its bounding box is easier to handle first. Not for brochure or book design but rather for layouts in kind of info-graphics, where in the beginning the final amount of words > lines > paragraphs isn't defined but grows over time.

The samples below started with single (key)words first and got filled successively while the words may need to move to a different position on the page and in their visual groups (~ "paragraphs") during the layout process various times. Then art text objects were just easier to handle because of their limited/narrowed bounding box. Once you get closer to a final content then the advantage of single word frames turn to become cumbersome at a certain stage of fine-tuning the final layout, in particular when a bunch of single words shall become paragraphs.

Imagine below the confusion of bounding boxes + handles if here the single words would have been created with the Frame Text Tool. It would require to create the frames in a specific size (before typing text) and this way would cause overlapping objects which makes the selection of specific objects (~ words) a lot more difficult then with art-text objects. Whereas once you have created the major content and arranged in groups then their formatting is easier if you can convert selected items to "paragraph text". – Note it is impossible to select more than 1 art-text content at a time to copy/paste it into a new Frame Text, instead you would need to do it one by one.

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5 hours ago, AleDG said:

Can't believe this has not been implemented yet.

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It is pointless to add a "+1" to topics like this here in the questions forum. To add your request for this or any other new feature, you should be posting to the appropriate section of the Feature Requests & Suggestions forum. That is where the developers look for feedback about such things.

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On 9/10/2021 at 8:40 AM, R C-R said:

It is pointless to add a "+1" to topics like this here in the questions forum. To add your request for this or any other new feature, you should be posting to the appropriate section of the Feature Requests & Suggestions forum. That is where the developers look for feedback about such things.

Maybe that should change, since it seems every time I come here for a question, the answer is it can’t be done, followed by countless plus-ones for the feature to be added.

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I doubt about "pointless", quite likely the topics get read there + here.

Occasionally, a smart Serif moderator moves a thread to the appropriate subforum. Maybe it will work here too?

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1 hour ago, jofearth said:

Maybe that should change, since it seems every time I come here for a question, the answer is it can’t be done, followed by countless plus-ones for the feature to be added.

Adding +1's to posts in the Questions forum isn't likely to catch the attention of any of the staff besides the moderators. In particular, the developers rarely visit this forum because they spend most of their time working on the code, not reading the thousands upon thousands of posts this forum generates.

But they have mentioned many times that the developers do follow the Feature Requests & Feedback forums, & of course the top level of that forum says, "We read every idea which is posted." That's why for maximum effect these requests should be posted there.

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Wondering if any progress (or plan to) include this is on the list. I recently had to edit an old CorelDRAW file and really enjoyed being able to simply (CTRL-F8) convert from Artistic Text to Paragraph (Frame) text.

The functionality of this has to do with typography controls immediately available on the object. Converting from Artistic Text to Paragraph Text assumes the user wants line breaks where the paragraph put them (i.e., after "forgotten" in the example below). Artistic text objects 'grow' as more text is added where as Paragraph text objects don't and must be flowed from one to another (like frames in Affinity). With Artistic text the handles resize the actual font; paragraph text handles resize the frame and rewrap text within them.

 

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On 2/14/2015 at 3:23 PM, Dave Harris said:

Converting Frame text into Art text would usually produce extremely long lines

You can make Artistic text frame the same width and span long paragraphs into multiple lines.

It would be great to have these options:

  1. Selecting two or more Artistic text frames and merge them into one in order they were selected.
  2. Convert Frame text into as many Artistic frames as there are paragraphs.

Option number 1 will be useful when a PDF document is opened, to join multiple text blocks that are not recognized as one (usually Body text) text flow.

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Are we seriously STILL waiting on this?!?!  I thought Affinity was supposed to be better than Adobe about listening to their customers. 🤔

Well on the bright side, it's already been over 7 years, so at least we only have about another 13 more to go! 👍🏼

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Frame text tool has an additional handle on the down right corner that makes it act as Artistic text tool.

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2 hours ago, NNN said:

Frame text tool has an additional handle on the down right corner that makes it act as Artistic text tool.

Yes, the outer handle (scalinghandle) scales the text while resizing the frame, but there's a disadvantage using it that way. In Publisher, it will make the text flow into another frame with an unpredictable font size. It's then difficult to get the text in the new frame to the correct size. It's best to avoid using that handle on a text frame.

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25 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Yes, the outer handle (scalinghandle) scales the text while resizing the frame, but there's a disadvantage using it that way. In Publisher, it will make the text flow into another frame with an unpredictable font size. It's then difficult to get the text in the new frame to the correct size. It's best to avoid using that handle on a text frame.

But if someone want to use it as an Artistic text frame, he wouldn't link that frame to another.

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13 minutes ago, NNN said:

But if someone want to use it as an Artistic text frame, he wouldn't link that frame to another.

Good point.

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4 hours ago, NNN said:

Frame text tool has an additional handle on the down right corner that makes it act as Artistic text tool.

Scaled Frame Text maintains its aspect ratio, so it isn’t the same as Artistic Text.

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20 minutes ago, Alfred said:

Scaled Frame Text maintains its aspect ratio, so it isn’t the same as Artistic Text.

Try together with SHIFT key. :)

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SHIFT = unproportionally resize;
CTRL = proportionally resize from center;
SHIFT+CTRL = unproportionally resize from center.

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