MikeW Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, owenr said: I'm far from satisfied with many aspects of AD, but I wanted to point out the fallacy of your particular statement which I quoted, to try to prevent readers being misled by it. Well, part of it was incorrect, that's true. The other parts, not so much. So thank you for the correction on the part that was incorrect. What doesn't work right...or work as it should from an output perspective...isn't gonna make a service provider's day. It's extra work for something that absolutely shouldn't ever be tied to a document DPI. It is easily resolved if one switches tabs to see what the margins and bleed is set to and make note of those values, switch back to the main document setup tab, change the dpi, switch back to the margins tab, reset them, switch to the bleed tab and reset the bleed, why in the world should that be needed? It wouldn't be needed if DPI was only related to the items previously mentioned. Having to check someone's file before print in application's that do not contain preflight checks is extra work. And that's the main theme here. Krustysimplex and SrPx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfoCentral Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 12 hours ago, AuthorAuthor said: The book from which this chapter was pulled is not for sale anymore, therefore I don't collect royalties, therefore rights revert to the Author. I have that book...pages 4 & 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuthorAuthor Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 11 hours ago, InfoCentral said: I have that book...pages 4 & 5. Thank you for being one of the five people who can be called "readers" . Seriously, perhaps my advice wasn't spot on. MikeW knows his desktop publishing like no other, while I have a firm grasp of what a desktop is. It's a mistake to get into digital imaging without knowing the relevant difference between raster (bitmap) and vector graphics. And the difference between resizing and resampling. Vector graphics are resolution independent—this usually means you can print a vector graphic, and make a bitmap copy of it to any size you like, and there is no blurring or jagged edges. Bitmaps are resolution dependent. The size of the graphic measure in real world units (inches, mms ) is inversely proportional to an image's resolution (how many color unit make up the image per measurement unit). Small example: if you rescale (resize) a picture that's 4" × 4" and is 300 pixels per inch—to twice its original size, the image will look exactly the same, except it will be exact;ly half its original perceived size. Better example: If you zoom in too much to an image in Affinity Photo, the pixels (the building blocks of the image) become painfully evident—unless you're really into 1970s video games. It's because bitmap images by their very construction, are dependent on the resolution to which they were created or resized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tia Lapis Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Don't understand what problem with dpi you have - If I change the dpi of a document vector and bitmap objects will be scaled correctly when I select rescale in the dialog. Mac mini M1 / Ryzen 5600H & RTX3050 mobile / iPad Pro 1st - all with latest non beta release of Affinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macCesar Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 12:07 PM, MikeW said: Nope. This has nothing to do with the resolution of images/bitmaps being transferred over to another document. It has to do with, specifically as mentioned, type size, but also applies to other vector elements. If I have 72pt type, I want 72pt type when I copy it to another document. I do not want some document-level DPI to muck with it. I'm a big boy and can resize it all on my own if that is needed. If I have a 3" rectangle, by God I want a 3" rectangle if I copy it to another document. Document-level DPI simply should not affect vector elements. And I am pretty confident to say that if APub behaves in the same way as AD currently does, it isn't going to be a liked “feature” among professional layout people. Nor, if APub ever (and I mean ever) makes way into print establishments and they accept client files from APub, they really are not going to like what happens when a client file was created at 72 DPI and they change it to 300 DPI. Everything, and I mean everything, will suddenly shrink on the page and the page size will remain the same. That's no way for a layout application to behave...and not a vector design application, either. Mike Hi Mike... That is exactly my point!!! Very well described!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macCesar Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 12:44 PM, owenr said: AD does allow us to preserve the physical size of the document and its elements when changing the document DPI in Document Setup. Ensure the document units is a physical unit and not pixel, specify the new DPI, specify "Rescale" and not "Anchor", then hit OK. Hi owenr... That's OK only when resizing a document... But, that's not the correct behavior when you want to copy some elements to different documents. Say I have two Letter size documents ( 8.5 x 11 inches, one with 72 ppp and the other with 300 ppp )... And if I have a 3x3 inches circle in one document and copy it to the other document, I should still have a 3 x 3 inches circle regardless of the ppp's. The same goes to Text Blocks and font sizes ( in points ). I've only seen this behavior in Photoshop, and not in Illustrator. Krustysimplex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macCesar Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 11:53 AM, Tia Lapis said: Don't understand what problem with dpi you have - If I change the dpi of a document vector and bitmap objects will be scaled correctly when I select rescale in the dialog. Hi Tia Lapis... That's OK only when resizing a document... But, that's not the correct behavior when you want to copy some elements to different documents. Say I have two Letter size documents ( 8.5 x 11 inches, one with 72 ppp and the other with 300 ppp )... And if I have a 3x3 inches circle in one document and copy it to the other document, I should still have a 3 x 3 inches circle regardless of the ppp's. The same goes to Text Blocks and font sizes ( in points ). I've only seen this behavior in Photoshop, and not in Illustrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macCesar Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, owenr said: Yes, I know. Please don't take my words out of context. They were in response to a specific statement by another member of the forum. I'm not trying to take your words out of context. I just replied to your comment, because I didn't see any 'quotes' or names to other members targeting your comment. But that was my mistake... I see that you response to a specific statement. Sorry!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macCesar Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Just now, owenr said: Eh? The statement to which I responded was quoted in my post. Here's a screen shot: Yes that was my mistake... I see that you response to a specific statement. Sorry!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Schülke Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Soooo Summer is nearly here.... well its allready untypicaly hot in germany.. but what i mean.... will it now sooon get much hotter... thinking of affinity publisher.. beta in summer ? ... are we still on track ?.... Max Basok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petar Petrenko Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Maybe we will get double surprise -- Publisher and v. 1.7? Max Basok, Tom Schülke, Mithferion and 1 other 3 1 All the latest releases of Designer, Photo and Publisher (retail and beta) on MacOS and Windows. 15” Dell Inspiron 7559 i7 ● Windows 10 x64 Pro ● Intel Core i7-6700HQ (3.50 GHz, 6M) ● 16 GB Dual Channel DDR3L 1600 MHz (8GBx2) ● NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4 GB GDDR5 ● 500 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD ● UHD (3840 x 2160) Truelife LED - Backlit Touch Display 32” LG 32UN650-W display ● 3840 x 2160 UHD, IPS, HDR10 ● Color Gamut: DCI-P3 95%, Color Calibrated ● 2 x HDMI, 1 x DisplayPort 13.3” MacBook Pro (2017) ● Ventura 13.6 ● Intel Core i7 (3.50 GHz Dual Core) ● 16 GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 ● Intel Iris Plus Graphics 650 1536 MB ● 500 GB SSD ● Retina Display (3360 x 2100) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sheaver Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 WWDC is just around the corner (next week), and I wonder... Shhh..... If Designer for the iPad might be announced? Max Basok, Mithferion and Sam Neil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokusai Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Michael Sheaver said: WWDC is just around the corner (next week), and I wonder... Shhh..... If Designer for the iPad might be announced? You might be on to something (and I hope you are)! Max Basok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithferion Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Hokusai said: You might be on to something (and I hope you are)! And I hope we see Designer and Ash on stage. Best regards! druseth and Max Basok 2 AMD FX 8350 :: Radeon HD 5670 :: Windows 10 :: http://mithferion.deviantart.com/ Oxygen Icons :: GCP Icons :: iOS 11 Design Resources :: iOS App Icon Template :: Free Quality Fonts (Commercial Use) :: Public Domain Images How to do High Quality Art :: Mesh Warp / Distort Tool Considerations :: Select Same / Object - Suggestions :: Live Glassmorphism Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smadell Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Here's my crystal ball reading. Next Monday, at WWDC, Serif will introduce Affinity Designer for iPad. We know it's coming, and WWDC would be a great (and almost expected) forum for it to be shown. I wouldn't be surprised if, initially, the files created by Affinity Designer for iPad cannot be opened by the existing 3 programs. In that case, new betas will almost certainly be available, rapid-fire, for Affinity Photo (desktop and iPad) and for Affinity Designer (desktop) in version 1.7. And, I suspect that the file format incompatibility will prove to be caused by the soon-to-be-released Affinity Publisher. Now, who wants their tea leaves read? Max Basok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Basok Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 nothing… just nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi9409 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 "soon-to-be-released Affinity Publisher." Any idea WHEN? Max Basok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted June 5, 2018 Staff Share Posted June 5, 2018 Hi Yogi9409, Affinity Publisher will be available as a Public Beta this Summer. Max Basok, Castle Al and Kai M 3 A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference | Call for Camera Images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Schülke Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Well Yeah... Of course... thats what we knew allready... now.. when is summer... ? Uncle Mez, Rick G and Max Basok 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted June 5, 2018 Staff Share Posted June 5, 2018 Hi Tom, That's all we know as well. There's no specific eta. It's still in development. Max Basok and SrPx 2 A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference | Call for Camera Images Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyg9 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I've been patient for years waiting for Publisher. I've replaced all of my Adobe programs with Affinity and Quark. I HAVE to use CC at work and if you want an example of patience, try using InDesign with it's faults and patches and shortcomings and WAIT for Adobe to fix it. I'd rather wait another year for Publisher than have to use CC for my personal use. Publisher will be amazing and confounding at the same time. I will dive head first upon it's arrival because if it behaves like it's sister programs, it will be a joy to explore, incorporate, and overcome whatever learning curve there may be (years of second-nature use of Adobe interface/shortcuts). Personally, I'd rather the developers take their time. Every time Adobe updates their CC programs, there's always wonderful new glitches and bugs. Thankfully, I'm not responsible for their shortcomings as it's what management has decided is the software of choice. Max Basok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickRose Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Personally I find Indesign pretty stable, though I stopped upgrading at CS6. I wonder if the expectations of APub are getting too high. I'm sure it will have some amazing new features but there will be lots missing which ID users have taken for granted over the years. Hopefully it will be the start of a long road though I suspect it will be pretty buggy for a while, like most new software. CraigB and SrPx 2 Windows 10 Pro, I5 3.3G PC 16G RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyg9 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I stopped upgrading at CS5. So I agree, CS5/CS6 is pretty stable. I don't really find anything earth-shattering in CC. Since I picked up QuarkXpress in November, it's been a re-learning curve with a lot of pleasant surprises. I think it's going to be the same way with APub. There are some things I miss in Quark that are part of InDesign, but nothing that can't be resolved or find a solution for, and for my personal reasons and beliefs, I won't ever subscribe to Adobe software (or any software for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuthorAuthor Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I jumped ship at PSCS 5; after looking at 6, I didn't notice a significant difference to bother. InDesign is fine, after being forced into it when it killed off Adlus PageMaker in 1585. It's overkill; too much I have no use for, including the system overhead. g dannyg9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominik Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 51 minutes ago, dannyg9 said: I stopped upgrading at CS5. I still have CS6 at hand and use it when needed. It is a good backup. But most of my work I do with Affintiy. And am happy with it. d. CraigB 1 Affinity Designer 1 & 2 | Affinity Photo 1 & 2 | Affinity Publisher 1 & 2 Affinity Designer 2 for iPad | Affinity Photo 2 for iPad | Affinity Publisher 2 for iPad Windows 11 64-bit - Core i7 - 16GB - Intel HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M iPad pro 9.7" + Apple Pencil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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