rfields Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 In Photos, when I click open with Affinity and then edit photo, it doesn't save the photo with edits back to Photos. How do I return my edited photo back to Photos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFisher Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hi rfields Welcome to the forum It isn't possible to export directly to Photos, but if you use the Edit in Affinity Photo extension (in Apple Photos) the image will be sent back to Apple Photos after you edit it in Affinity once saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted November 13, 2017 Staff Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hi rfields, Welcome to Affinity Forums If you are using the Open with command from the menu, we are aware of of a few issues here. Please use the extension instead (Edit in Affinity Photo) as suggested by JFisher. The image in Photos should update as soon as you close the document tab (and save the changes) in Affinity Photo. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tey Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hi rfields, Below you can see that Affinity does return the edited photo back to Photos but in an obscure manner. This leaves the question: How do you get to the edited photo once Affinity has returned it to Photos? Here are the steps I took: (1) Click on the thumbnail of the photo to be edited so it becomes large. (2) With the cursor over the photo, right click to bring up the contextual menu. Move down to Edit with > then right and down and click on Affinity Photo from the popup submenu. (I couldn't find any Edit in Affinity Photo as JFisher suggested, at least not under Photos Edit menu.) (3) Affinity appears with the photo to be edited. (4) Make edits with Affinity. (5) Choose Save from the Affinity File menu. (A bit surprising since Save usually produces an .afphoto file on disk.) At this point Affinity seems happy, but what has it done with the edited photo? It is nowhere among the master list obtained by clicking on Library > Photos in Photos. By snooping around with FindAnyFile.app I located the edited photo in the directory path shown below: So there it is safely tucked away somewhere within the .photoslibrary package. How do we convince Photos to cough it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techworks Pro Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Seems like a good reason to have some form of DAM (Digital Asset Management) to allow editing in AP, access in other apps, storage elsewhere, etc. BiffBrown 1 Quote MBP 2017, MacOS Mojave 10.14.6, Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer, (Trial) Publisher iPad Pro, iOS 12, Affinity Photo, Designer https://techworkspro.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Tey said: (I couldn't find any Edit in Affinity Photo as JFisher suggested, at least not under Photos Edit menu.) "Edit in Affinity Photo" is an item that should appear in Photos when you are in its edit mode after turning on the Affinity Photo extensions, as explained in the Turn on extensions on your Mac section of this Apple help document. Only (I think) if you are running High Sierra will you get the right-click 'Open with' option, but as I understand it this is currently somewhat buggy so it is best to turn on & use the extension. 8 hours ago, Tey said: By snooping around with FindAnyFile.app I located the edited photo in the directory path shown below: So there it is safely tucked away somewhere within the .photoslibrary package. It is safely tucked away in a normally hidden location so users won't be tempted to change anything directly in a .photoslibrary package, which can corrupt the various database & other supporting files that app uses to keep track of the edited & master versions of the file. See for example the warning in this Apple support article: Quote WARNING: To avoid accidentally deleting or corrupting a Photos library, do not alter the contents of a library in the Finder. So it is a very bad idea to write anything directly to a Photos library! Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techworks Pro Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, R C-R said: "Edit in Affinity Photo" is an item that should appear in Photos when you are in its edit mode after turning on the Affinity Photo extensions, as explained in the Turn on extensions on your Mac section of this Apple help document. Only (I think) if you are running High Sierra will you get the right-click 'Open with' option, but as I understand it this is currently somewhat buggy so it is best to turn on & use the extension. It is safely tucked away in a normally hidden location so users won't be tempted to change anything directly in a .photoslibrary package, which can corrupt the various database & other supporting files that app uses to keep track of the edited & master versions of the file. See for example the warning in this Apple support article: So it is a very bad idea to write anything directly to a Photos library! So you mean except by using the app to do it, right. So to manage your assets, it'll need to be via export to a D.A.M. tool in another program. And same is true though to a lesser degree using Lightroom, and AP. The file names as they are need to be managed by a separate program and kept in some order using a SCHEME FOR THAT PROGRAM that is Finder based and can be tracked and searched by meta-data, has thumbnails for viewing and data search tools. Then you'll have a good library and a way to efficiently use it for your work flow. Quote MBP 2017, MacOS Mojave 10.14.6, Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer, (Trial) Publisher iPad Pro, iOS 12, Affinity Photo, Designer https://techworkspro.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techworks Pro Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, R C-R said: So it is a very bad idea to write anything directly to a Photos library! Here's what I was thinking: Copy the images (whether edited in Photos, RAW, or otherwise unmodified) into the DAM. Use a common format - JPG, PS, afphoto. Likewise copy edited versions of AP images, cross reference them by name of file, metadata, etc. Manage the assets (files) from that moment on to and fro among all the editing apps used (and allow any apps that accept images. Eventually expand to movies, PDF's, docs with pictures. Similar to the promises of someone else's app, Bridge, but in a better more useful way, E.G., Lightroom-like. Establish linking. Opening up apps of choice for editing, copying from them, updated them to the master photo files via keywords, titles, select levels, captioning them and the like. Are we listening Affinity?? Quote MBP 2017, MacOS Mojave 10.14.6, Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer, (Trial) Publisher iPad Pro, iOS 12, Affinity Photo, Designer https://techworkspro.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tey Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 7 hours ago, R C-R said: "Edit in Affinity Photo" is an item that should appear in Photos when you are in its edit mode after turning on the Affinity Photo extensions Thanks for pointing out how to get to the Edit in Affinity Photo through the Photos edit screen. After editing in Affinity, saving and closing the Affinity document I am taken back the the Photos edit screen where I can choose save the edits or not. So, I am a happy camper! (Note: I am running High Sierra so the right click seemed a much faster way to get the photo into Affinity Photo but the fact that the results are buried deep in the Photos library make it unusable. I wonder what the Affinity team was thinking.) 7 hours ago, Techworks Pro said: Here's what I was thinking: Copy the images (whether edited in Photos, RAW, or otherwise unmodified) into the DAM. Use a common format - JPG, PS, afphoto. Likewise copy edited versions of AP images, cross reference them by name of file, metadata, etc. Manage the assets (files) from that moment on to and fro among all the editing apps used (and allow any apps that accept images. Eventually expand to movies, PDF's, docs with pictures. Similar to the promises of someone else's app, Bridge, but in a better more useful way, E.G., Lightroom-like. Establish linking. Opening up apps of choice for editing, copying from them, updated them to the master photo files via keywords, titles, select levels, captioning them and the like. Thanks for the advice about using DAM software. Perhaps in the future I'll look into it but currently I lead a very simple life with respect to managing my modest collection of photos. Keywords, smart albums and separate libraries work well for me. I would rather not become involved with one more piece of software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 9 hours ago, Tey said: Note: I am running High Sierra so the right click seemed a much faster way to get the photo into Affinity Photo but the fact that the results are buried deep in the Photos library make it unusable... How so? Apple Photos is designed to prevent edits to the original 'master' photo to support the "Revert to Original" feature. All edits, whether made in the app or externally, are applied to a copy of the master. You have the option of exporting either the unmodified original or the edited version, which gives you access to either one without risking corruption of anything in the Photos Library. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tey Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 6 hours ago, R C-R said: How so? Apple Photos is designed to prevent edits to the original 'master' photo to support the "Revert to Original" feature. All edits, whether made in the app or externally, are applied to a copy of the master. You have the option of exporting either the unmodified original or the edited version, which gives you access to either one without risking corruption of anything in the Photos Library. The right click is currently unusable to me because saving the edited version places it in the ExternalEditSessions subfolder of the library and I can find no way to access it from within Photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I have tried the Edit with extension as per MEB above, it still does not save my changes back to photo. My edits simply seem to disappear!!! What can I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Hello Ken1 and welcome to the Affinity forums, Sadly for many users, (but not all users) as of Affinity Photo v1.7.2 there is no way to use Affinity Photo as an external editor from within Apple Photos. Here are two other threads on the problem. But as I say, for the unlucky users who are affected by this bug, there is no fix for it yet as of writing this:https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/91443-affinity-photo-has-stopped-saving-directly-back-into-mac-os-photos/https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/58871-editing-in-ap-from-apple-photos/ Quote macOS 10.15.7 | 15" Macbook Pro, 2017 | 4 Core i7 3.1GHz CPU | Radeon Pro 555 2GB GPU + Integrated Intel HD Graphics 630 1.536GB | 16GB RAM | Wacom Intuos4 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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