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On 11/8/2017 at 1:58 PM, kaseopea said:

I understand that licensing of such technology would increase the price of Affinity Designer, but it also would ad super-powes that Adobe doesn't have in Illustrator.

I think Affinity would get much more clients with this feature built-in Affinity Designer.

nicely said,,,finally

in hope that someone listens

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+1 more vote on integrating the Astute Graphics Technology in Affinity designer. 

I own the entire AG suite, and it’s the only reason I still open illustrator. This would give AD the upper hand over illustrator in every way.

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6 hours ago, Izzy said:

+1 more vote on integrating the Astute Graphics Technology in Affinity designer. 

 

I know that it has been mentioned before but I don't understand how this would give AD an upper hand over Illustrator? You can use Astute Graphics Technology on Illustrator now, so if Designer could also run it that wouldn't really give Designer an advantage would it? For some people it might put them on an even playing field but it wouldn't give Designer an advantage. If you are talking about Serif licensing some of their code for use in Designer but that brings up a whole lot of questions. Does Astute Graphics even do that? If they do why hasn't Adobe done it? Surely Adobe could afford it seeing how much profit they make from forcing their users to rent their software. 

Even if it were possible it still does't change the fact that Illustrator can still run Astute's Graphics plugins so that isn't really an advantage as they would both have access to the same technologies. Also if that were possible, I imagine it would drive the price up for Designer quite a lot. So much more so that it makes me wonder if it would be worth it. Astute has some really nice stuff but I'd prefer that Designer could use Plugins so that users could decide whether or not they needed and wanted to pay for such things. I'm guessing that a lot of people don't need the features that Astute's plugins offer so it seems better to me to leave it as a optional thing, like what plugins offer. So for me the whole point of this thread should be about requesting that Designer be able to use plugins. 

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49 minutes ago, Hokusai said:

I know that it has been mentioned before but I don't understand how this would give AD an upper hand over Illustrator?

 

It would give AD the upper hand because the technology would be built into the software, where right now Adobe only supports it as a plugin.
It would bring features to the table like better boolean operations, cleaner curves, collision detection, curve fittingscattering operations, Curve extension based on trajectory, etc.
If it is part of the core software, it makes it a better core package.

I actually agree with your completely, if I could just use the same plugins that would also be great!
Serif could also develop the tools as part of AD expansion, and just create a subscription for those of us that need it. I doubt astute will want to support plugins for multiple suites. And the developers at Serif will know who best to fit it in without compromising their suite.

I've also wondered why Adobe hasn't gone this route. I feel like Adobe doesn't really focus on their products with special care and attention they used to. The latest copies of Photoshop and Illustrator are very slow and unstable, and instead of fixing these issues they just keep on adding more features that contribute to compromised performance and unreliability.
I've been wondering if Photoshop for iPad is going to also accompany an unveiling of a rewritten Photoshop for desktop... in which case maybe they're just being secretive until their project is further along.

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48 minutes ago, Hokusai said:

I know that it has been mentioned before but I don't understand how this would give AD an upper hand over Illustrator? You can use Astute Graphics Technology on Illustrator now, so if Designer could also run it that wouldn't really give Designer an advantage would it? For some people it might put them on an even playing field but it wouldn't give Designer an advantage. If you are talking about Serif licensing some of their code for use in Designer but that brings up a whole lot of questions. Does Astute Graphics even do that? If they do why hasn't Adobe done it? Surely Adobe could afford it seeing how much profit they make from forcing their users to rent their software.

Even if it were possible it still does't change the fact that Illustrator can still run Astute's Graphics plugins so that isn't really an advantage as they would both have access to the same technologies. Also if that were possible, I imagine it would drive the price up for Designer quite a lot. So much more so that it makes me wonder if it would be worth it. Astute has some really nice stuff but I'd prefer that Designer could use Plugins so that users could decide whether or not they needed and wanted to pay for such things. I'm guessing that a lot of people don't need the features that Astute's plugins offer so it seems better to me to leave it as a optional thing, like what plugins offer. So for me the whole point of this thread should be about requesting that Designer be able to use plugins.

having the algorithms baked into AD would make for a better user experience than having to use a separate panel to do the things you want.

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9 hours ago, mvlad said:

having the algorithms baked into AD would make for a better user experience than having to use a separate panel to do the things you want.

I understand the desire to have them built in, it would be great but I'm guessing that isn't going to happen. If it were, as I mentioned in my previous post, then Adobe would have done it years ago. Have the ability to use Plugins with Designer would, as @Izzy said, take care of the problem for most people. In fact having the ability to use plugins would allow people to add features that might only appeal to them. I'd like to see plugin support for Designer (which I'm guessing will be added eventually seeing how it is in Photo) that way people who want and need Astute's stuff can use them and other companies plugins as well. I'd also like to see Serif's take on some of the some of the features that Astute offers. I like Serif's way of thinking and I think they could come up with some interesting, and no doubt different, ways of doing things. 

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On 3/5/2019 at 11:54 PM, Izzy said:

...and yet another vote on integrating the Astute Graphics Technology in Affinity designer. 

I LOVE AG's plugins. I see the difficulty of integrating or adding on as a plugin, but hope something happens. 

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