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13 minutes ago, R C-R said:

this makes the learning curve so steep that it remains an 'app of last resort,' something I will use only if there is no other app I have that can do something it can.

A Mac alternative is VectorStyler https://www.vectorstyler.com and it too is user unfriendly but a heck of a lot easier than Inkscape. Feature rich and now in beta so that is free but still I have a hell of a time figuring out how to do simple things, but it has some features which work very well and are missing in Designer.

 


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1 hour ago, Dazmondo77 said:

Just downloaded and had a play with the Inkscape 1.0 beta for mac and will prob use it to plug the gaps.

And the question is not "Is Inkscape user friendly or not" (that is a Trump'ish strategy) but "why do we (users of Designer) still have to plug all those gaps with other apps and workarounds". FOR YEARS Affinity users mentioned horrible alternatives, plugs and workarounds that do not provide a seamless workflow at all - but just slow creativity down. 

The more horrible description of Inkscape and alternatives from the core users here - the bigger the question mark.

I don't do tons of workarounds for years and years. Then my family would starve.


I gave up using Designer for hobby use - a "professional" vector drawing program without actual vector features. Customers waiting for five years in vain is more than any company can ask for.

Maybe if Affinity Designer 2.0 gets real and advanced vector features I can it use. Until then... I am a customer, a potential upgrader and an active observer with an opinion. Currently I am slowly finishing a project I started in Designer.

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Well lets hope they have some awesome manipulation tools in progress.


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3 hours ago, firstdefence said:

Well lets hope they have some awesome manipulation tools in progress.

2 hours ago, PaulMakesGames said:

Last week someone posted a feature request for this here: Free Transform, Perspective & Warp Tools. If everyone posts their interest there it might get the attention of the devs.

That is all you have. Hope. And no tools. Almost like hope and no vaccine. Difference is the entire world is working on a vaccine. Almost no one are working on these tools in Affinity. If anyone at all.

Developers doesn't call the shots. You are waiting for business priorities and then for a tiny team to deliver enormous amounts of new code and new features for three programs on THREE platforms. First they will prioritize Publisher for iOS. Then perhaps the DAM. Serif knows about your requests and the number of requests. You are not getting these features because the company has other priorities and only a tiny team of developers. You are probably waiting for v2.0 and a new purchase before you see some of these features. But what if it disappoints - or these features are not part of v2.0? How long can you wait then?

All you have are sticks and stones and gradients à la 1990. And hardcore forum apologists.

In short you are waiting for Affinity Wunderwaffe.

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In the German language the term Wunderwaffe generally refers to a universal solution which solves all problems related to a particular issue, mostly used ironically for its illusionary nature.

 


I gave up using Designer for hobby use - a "professional" vector drawing program without actual vector features. Customers waiting for five years in vain is more than any company can ask for.

Maybe if Affinity Designer 2.0 gets real and advanced vector features I can it use. Until then... I am a customer, a potential upgrader and an active observer with an opinion. Currently I am slowly finishing a project I started in Designer.

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8 hours ago, ErrkaPetti said:

Thanks, but, after ten minutes with this (although a bit faster than yesterdays install) I can't stand that Inkscape is slow laggy and ugly on my iMac...

The impression I still get after another hour or so of trying to use it is that the effort to create a truly Mac-like version of Inkscape is a very low priority & it will be years before that happens.

The current version is not just too slow at doing some very basic stuff, compared to the AD UI it takes too many clicks to do the things I do most, uses too much screen space for what could have been something more like Affinity's far more user-friendly Studio panels, & generally gets in the way of how I want to work.

So sure, the extra tools & features it has that Affinity lacks are great, but overall it just isn't worth wasting any more of my time on it. Maybe someday there will be a truly native Mac version I will enjoy using, but this isn't it.


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I don’t fight it, serif/affinity deliver, when they deliver, in the meantime I find alternative apps to do the things I need. Affinity is a single tool in a toolbox full of tools but all the tools I use have their flaws but the benefit to that tool out-ways the deficiency in a particular area.

Even if Affinity Designer had these features it wouldn’t necessarily mean I would use them if another tool had similar features but were better implemented and or had additional controls that improved functionality.


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That's funny. Years ago I wanted to be more  effective using Gimp that I known from the 90' Linux distros we used, and they were a  lot more modern in UI and feel than Windows or OS 9.
But for this, I had to uninstall/forbid myself use of all other similar apps.
It wasn't done in 1 hour. I think I was grumbling for at least a month (I didn't needed it every day on a personal level). But once I understand it better, andhow to find tool and use them with the slight difference there are with PS, no problem.

I had the same problem using AP: mask and some effect behaving differently, needing more tweaks and tricks than using Gimp… But I paid for it, it would have been stupid to stop.

It's different with Inkscape: I know it from when it was called Sodipodi, and it was helpfull to use it on Mac too.
On Windows, I can see  UI improvement since it was a pain to get other "skins" fully fonctional with older versions. The basics tools and features are easily accessible, and I know there are more and too mathematical/complexe ones I'm not sure I'll ever use.

Does if feel ugly or old? It's only different. I couldn't stand anymore working on OS X with the same UI for years, where the only different option was the highlight colour! (or the metalic brushed steel look).

If you really want to learn to use another app, do it, anddon't comment if you only spend 10 minutes or 1 hour testing it.

 

If you really need some features, be more persistent. Learning other apps help having a different mindset like using different features and workflows, it's is beneficial.

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21 minutes ago, Wosven said:

If you really want to learn to use another app, do it, anddon't comment if you only spend 10 minutes or 1 hour testing it.

So far, I have spent only about an hour & a half trying out the Mac RC1 version, but many more hours trying to get comfortable with various 0.92 Mac versions. Those old versions all had so many problems that I eventually gave up on them.

RC1 is better, but the problem I have with it is it isn't just about learning how to use the app itself, it is that it is still so far from being a real native Mac app that I have to learn to use what amounts to an app running in a Windows app environment with a few Mac-specific features tossed in.


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The only way they will listen, is to make reviews pointing out that this BASIC feature (Yes, it's basic - every other tool has this now!) - is missing entirely.

So, I'll go make reviews.

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I use a compliment of apps with their multitude of tools, some of the tools are duplicated but some apps tools give particular features  that tool, I just select the app that does what I want it to do. This is a dynamic ever-changing process, with apps falling out of favour, only to rise again the next month with a big improvement in a tool, that’s the nature of such things it’s ebb and workflow of app usage. 😉

If an app gives everything people want, they change from complaining about everything the app doesn’t have, to everything it does have and it automatically becomes bloatware  🤣


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10 hours ago, firstdefence said:

I use a compliment of apps with their multitude of tools, some of the tools are duplicated but some apps tools give particular features  that tool, I just select the app that does what I want it to do. This is a dynamic ever-changing process, with apps falling out of favour, only to rise again the next month with a big improvement in a tool, that’s the nature of such things it’s ebb and workflow of app usage. 😉

If an app gives everything people want, they change from complaining about everything the app doesn’t have, to everything it does have and it automatically becomes bloatware  🤣

You consider a transform tool bloat? Stick with MS Paint then.

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48 minutes ago, Russ1642 said:

You consider a transform tool bloat? Stick with MS Paint then.

No thanks, much prefer my Mac’s

It was a generalisation on some apps that have gotten bloated, actually Ive used the term incorrectly but I’ve always understood it to mean apps that have tried to be more than they were originally designed to be; becoming bloated, Affinity is far from that at the mo, one could almost call it slimware 🤔


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I was just looking for this feature and was surprised to find that it doesn't exist... so you've got another vote for a free transform feature.

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I have to say that making logos on Affinity Designer is a pain. Don't get me wrong, I love your software - already cancelled all Adobe, after almost 20 years. BUT can you just wake up and do updates more frequently? There are so many tools that people ask for, for years and they are SO basic to work on shapes. ALL wrap tools / perspective / distort / live trace / erase tool for vector / etc. And for example for Affinity Photo mesh warp tool for "smart objects" (live perspective) kills all advanced mockups / etc. . I read so many forum posts that like 2-3 years old... You have dedicated user base and I hope it is growing because I already convinced some people to use Affinity. BUT you have to make upgrades faster. I'm still waiting for improvement in so many basic options. If your business model doesn't allow you to be more active, change it. I would happily pay for upgrades 99$ per year, like I do in SKETCH (in my opinion it is the best business model from all programs that I use).

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I'll add my vote. I downloaded the trial version to try to decide whether to purchase it (I already own Affinity Photo and love it). Within the first hour of attempting to do some very basic work designing badges I became completely confounded trying to find a way to accomplish this simple function. I'm shocked to discover it simply doesn't exist anywhere in the program. Definitely a must-have. I'm on the fence about purchasing it now, since I may still need to keep using AI just for this reason.

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