Info panel - picker

[Littletank]

I believe that there was a request made several weeks ago for the area selected by the picker be increased from 1 pixel to 3x3 pixels. Could I be told, please, whether this has been done? Thank you.

[lepr]

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[Littletank]

I am very disappointed because this means that one of the proceedures I want to use in my workflow cannot be used. I am beginning to get frustrated that simple things like this, common  place in Photoshop, cannot be implemented in AP. In my opinion the picker is useless and might just as well not be there. I agree with owenr that it would be ideal to be able to choose the area covered by the picker.

 

All those who need to be able to measure the data on a single pixel on a regular basis please explain why and when.

[R C-R]

Have you tried the Color Picker Tool? It gives you a choice of a single pixel sample or sampling over the average of any of six sizes from 3 to 257 px in the Context toolbar. This tool has several other options that control what it is applied to.

[Littletank]

No, I was not aware that there was one. I will look immediately and, if it is as you say, then you have my apologies.

[lepr]

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[R C-R]

The tool is in the Tools panel & uses the same icon as the dropper on the color panels. The online help page explains how it works.

[Littletank]

OK, I found the tool and agree that the size may be changed in steps and I am happy with that. However, how do I use this in conjunction with the info palette set to LAB and how do I leave a mark on the image at the place picked? 

[lepr]

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[Littletank]

Just now, owenr said:

 

You can't. We need the Info panel samplers to be sizeable.

 

Exactly, that is what I hoped would have been done. I now have the dilemma how to respond to my fellow B&W photographers when they enquire about AP. The sad thing is that apart from this one glitch we can do all that we could do in Photoshop with a little bit of give and take.

[toltec]

10 minutes ago, Littletank said:

 I now have the dilemma how to respond to my fellow B&W photographers when they enquire about AP. 

 

Just tell them that it might only do 95% of what Photoshop does but is only 10% of the cost, and no subscription !!!

 

That seems a pretty good argument to me 

[lepr]

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[toltec]

 

11 minutes ago, owenr said:

No use to someone who relies on something in the missing 5%.

 

 

True. But if it is that important to you, you just have to pay. Like it or not.

 

I am leaning towards the "not" as the preferred option but that is just me 

 

 

[Littletank]

If only the Help File was a little more helpful. By playing around I have realised that I can get what I want, I think, by using the colour panel instead of the info panel and setting it to LAB. Just one last thing to sort - how do I mark the spot on the image selected by the colour picker?

 

Please note that I strongly object to being told to put up with what I have bought or clear off.

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, Littletank said:

By playing around I have realised that I can get what I want, I think, by using the colour panel instead of the info panel and setting it to LAB. Just one last thing to sort - how do I mark the spot on the image selected by the colour picker?

When you say "colour picker" what exactly do you mean? Are you talking about the eyedropper in the Color Panel or one (or more) of the samplers in the Info Panel?

 

There is no way I know of to do that with the eyedropper but in the Info Panel you can drag out the target icon on one or more samplers to mark & continuously sample one or more single pixel areas on the canvas. You still can't set them to sample 3X3 areas but you can add as many samplers as you want & set all of them to LAB if you want.

[Alfred]

1 hour ago, Littletank said:

Please note that I strongly object to being told to put up with what I have bought or clear off.

 

It's just as well, then, that none of the contributors to this thread has told you to do that!

 

[toltec]

21 minutes ago, Alfred said:

 

It's just as well, then, that none of the contributors to this thread has told you to do that!

 

 

Quite right, and in fact the good people at Serif have created a forum for the very purpose of asking for features you want. (well, not you but the OP) 

 

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/forum/6-feature-requests-suggestions-and-feedback/

 

post there (if not already done) and I'm sure it will come eventually. 

[R C-R]

3 minutes ago, toltec said:

post there (if not already done) and I'm sure it will come eventually.

All feature requests are considered but that does not necessarily mean they will be implemented eventually, or ever. Several factors determine that, including how many users they think would actually use the feature, how much coding it would take to implement & debug it, how that would effect performance of the app, & if there is another way to provide equivalent or better functionality.

[Littletank]

R C-R I will try to explain what I am trying to do. Visualise a B&W image which is composed of a range of tones between black and white. These tones can be considered as falling within specified zones which have a specific lightness value when measured with an eyedropper. When the image is studied I decide that I would like to move certain parts of it from one zone to another, so I place the eyedropper within the zone and mark the spot. Next I take a curves adjustment layer, set it to LAB, Lightness and then place the Picker on to the spot previously marked. With a little wiggle the position is marked on the curve which is then moved either up or down until the lightness value of the desired zone is achieved.

 

Now I know I am able to do this with an eyedropper from the info panel but to sample one pixel isn't really good enough hence the reason for wanting a larger sample such as 3x3 pixels. I suppose I could mark the spot with an eyedropper from the info palette, then take the eyedropper from the colour palette set to LAB and use the value displayed in the colour palette but this is just adding another step.

 

I hope this helps you to appreciate why I am pushing for an adequate solution to the problem.

 

As a point of information the question of being able to take larger samples was raised a few months ago.

 

 

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, Littletank said:

As a point of information the question of being able to take larger samples was raised a few months ago.

Understood, but that is something better discussed in the forum @toltec mentioned.