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Hi,

I have some suggestions about Glyph Browser:

1. It must respond automatically when the font is changed, not to do it manually.

2. InDesign and QuarkXPress both have "Alternates for Selection" section. InDesign offers it automatically, Quark -- not. It would be nice if you offer this option for us. Automatically, of course.

3. When you add "Find/Replace" feature in yours apps it would be nice to be able to Copy/Paste any glyph in both "Find" and "Replace" fields. Quark does not have this option and InDesign has separate tab in "Find/Replace".

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Any thoughts about this from Affinity team?

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On 11/3/2017 at 4:24 PM, Petar Petrenko said:

1. It must respond automatically when the font is changed, not to do it manually.

 

This one seems to work fine for me. Unless I'm misunderstanding.

 

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5 hours ago, Bri-Toon said:

 

This one seems to work fine for me. Unless I'm misunderstanding.

 

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When you select/change a font in a text, the font in a Glyph Palette must change automatically. And not only the font, its traits also (bold, italic...).

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Hi Petar,

 

I posted a similar request some days ago, but it went largely unnoticed:

 

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/56679-glyph-browser-improvements/

 

Seems we are the only two persons that would like to have improvements of the Glyph Browser. :(

 

As you can see, I would disagree with you that the Glyph Browser should update automatically, without an option to have current behavior as well. When you are working with two typefaces in a text, say a “Standard” typeface and an “Expert” typeface you created in addition, it is a pain not to have the glyphs of the “Expert” font available all the time. Think of inserting a glyph from your “Expert” font only now and then. When the Glyph Browser automatically defaults to the current typeface, depending on the position of the caret cursor in the “Standard” text, it will always bring up the glyphs of the “Standard” font. But heck, I want to insert an “Expert” glyph! Annoying … O.o

 

So please let me repeat two my suggestions. We should have the following:

  • “Show Selected Font” Checkbox. If engaged, selecting some text in a text frame would bring up the respective font overview in the Glyph Browser. The Glyph Browser could be blank, if texts with more than one fonts were selected, or it could display the font overviews one after another.
  • “Show Selected Glyph” Checkbox. If engaged, the Glyph Browser would jump to the currently selected glyph of the currently selected font.

I strongly hope that the future implementation will follow these lines … :)

Cheers, Alex

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Okay, I will do something terribly redundant and repost my third request here as well, since this thread seems to get a little more attention:

  • Custom Glyph Lists or Tables. It would be great, if we could create custom glyph lists or glyph tables, and in particular cross-font glyph tables. Adding glyphs to a glyph table should be possible by using a context menu on items of an existing glyph table and by using a context menu or a shortcut on a selection of text. In particular, it should be possible to add all glyphs of a text selection to a glyph table at once, and that means in particular, it should be possible to create a glyph table from all glyphs that are used in a text frame or in a story.

And yes, Petar, the Glyph Browser should support the “Access All Alternates” feature … :)

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13 hours ago, MikeW said:

He is talking about the glyph palette changing automatically to the current font. 

 

9 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

When you select/change a font in a text, the font in a Glyph Palette must change automatically. And not only the font, its traits also (bold, italic...).

 

In that case, I think it makes sense to add that. One must know the precise result in advance, right?

 

8 hours ago, A_B_C said:

As you can see, I would disagree with you that the Glyph Browser should update automatically, without an option to have current behavior as well. When you are working with two typefaces in a text, say a “Standard” typeface and an “Expert” typeface you created in addition, it is a pain not to have the glyphs of the “Expert” font available all the time.

 

For this, I think it should depend on what font is highlighted. If there are multiple highlighted, then I think it would be fine if the glyph browser perhaps shows the one that was most recently used than all that are highlighted. It is like having two objects selected with different stroke sizes. It cannot give the proper value of both at once.

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It is like having two objects selected with different stroke sizes.

 

No, this is completely different, Brian! :)

 

When you select two different paths that have different stroke sizes applied, it is clear that the user interface cannot display both stroke sizes at the same time, and it will therefore either gray out the stroke size input or display the stroke size of the path that was selected first (or last). The latter one is the case with Affinity Designer.

 

But … and this is the big difference … updating the Glyph Browser, as envisioned by Petar and implemented in Indesign, for instance, will work without selecting any part of your text. The Glyph Browser will immediately update according to the position of the caret cursor in the text. If left to the blinking caret cursor is a sequence of text that is set in Times New Roman Regular, for example, it will immediately display the glyph set of Times New Roman Regular. This sequence does not have to be selected at all (nor any other one). So in our case, there is actually not even the question of selecting two typefaces. As Petar suggests, the Glyph Browser should always update simply by placing the caret cursor anywhere in a text.

 

However, I believe this would be very very unfortunate. There must be an option to preserve the current behavior. Just have a look at the forum software. We can type our normal English texts into the Reply window, but at the same time, we can use the emoji palette to insert emojis here :ph34r: and there :ph34r:. Now imagine, what happened if the emoji palette would continuously update in the way imagined by Petar for the Glyph Browser. How tedious would everything get … in order to insert an emoji, you would have to (a) place your cursor at the appropriate position, (b) switch the text typeface to the emoji font, (c) select your emoji from the now updated palette, and (d) switch back to the standard text font to resume writing. How incredibly cumbersome. I strongly hope the Gyph Browser will never be “upgraded” in this horrible way.

 

(I stopped cursing at Indesign because of this behavior … it doesn’t help anyway …, but dear developers, please don’t make the same mistakes again … ;))

 

I hope that makes sense … :)

Alex

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You make your point very clear, Alex. I'm obviously no professional (not yet), but I sure do like to learn.

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With this, I may not be able to relate, but I do get it. Before Designer, I've spent years searching for alternatives to Illustrator. Such simple ways of portraying the tools can be so effective.

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