Nic727 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi, I'm trying to draw a robot looking sad in a sad environment. I chose some grey with blue tint to make it more sad, but I don't know if I should keep the black outlines around the shapes. I tried, but it was harder to see shapes without outlines. Do you have any solutions or idea to improve my sad robot? Do you think I should had flat shadow somewhere or change some colors? It's the first time I'm trying to draw something... It's for a project at school and a contest at the same time. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 This is a basic art design issue. Your drawing is fine. But the outlines are still necessary because the color fills don't have enough contrast. Without breaking everything down, I'd have to say most everything isclose too the same level of luminosity, except the outlines, which are 0. Classically, there must be at least three levels to do away with lines. Darkest, approaching 0, middle, 50, and lightest, approaching100. Given your subject, sadness, shift everything down, lightest maybe 75. I'd get rid of the back ground, or really ghost it a lot, so that the figure of the 'bot on the bench is more isolated. I'd bump the saturation on the yellows, but shift a bit towards orange Nic727 1 Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic727 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Thank you for the tips. Will post another image when it will be done. I will play with the contrast and colors to make them more light/darker to be able to remove outlines. Also, since it's a poster contest, it need more impact. I don't know what position the bots should have on it. My goal is to represent what could happens in our world if we have too much robots and AI working at our jobs. They will be so many that there will be some "homeless" bots. It's a fiction, but that's my goal for the poster. EDIT: Got something here. MEB, dmstraker and GarryP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Coming right along. You will still need some lines, for instance those showing the arm and leg segments. In traditional cartooning, those most likely would have been made w a series of overlapping ovals, with the indentations emphasizing the thew joints. Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic727 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 I know what you mean about ovals. Something like that right? I don't think it will fit for my robot. I know he have long arms and legs, but it's the style I wanted. A bit like this little one on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Your robot does not look sad to me. A single tear drop can convey sadness. Plus is he just resting his hat or is he meant to begging for food (or oil) ? The last, yellow, robot you posted is clearly a happy robot, try to get your robot to portray his sadness more Like this one does (from the Internet) Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic727 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 Does he looks sad now? He's begging for money to get oil or simply oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted October 12, 2017 Staff Share Posted October 12, 2017 @carl123 I think is does look sad. The style is different from the image you posted but there's a few hints there: it has a broken eye (left)/eyes expression, the mouth display pointing upwards, the small antenna pointing down and the dull palette used. Nic727 1 Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software | Affinity Quick Reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Nic727 said: Does he looks sad now? He's begging for money to get oil or simply oil. Yes the tear drop definitely conveys sadness But he is still too pristine for me.... if he is meant to be homeless, he should look like the equivalent of how a dishevelled human would look If you want to win the poster contest, find pictures of how a sad, out of work, begging human looks and convey them in your robot There is too much ambiguity in your poster at the moment to know what it is about - if you had not already told us Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic727 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 1 minute ago, carl123 said: Yes the tear drop definitely conveys sadness But he is still too pristine for me.... if he is meant to be homeless, he should look like the equivalent of how a dishevelled human would look If you want to win the poster contest, find pictures of how a sad, out of work, begging human looks and convey them in your robot There is too much ambiguity in your poster at the moment to know what it is about - if you had not already told us I know what you mean, but my robot can't move his head very much. He has a metallic body. I could add the hat on his leg, but after that, the left side of the poster will be empty. Also don't forget that I have a 3 words text on top, so maybe it can reveal more than just the image itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Nic727 said: I could add the hat on his leg, but after that, the left side of the poster will be empty. A couple of baby robots looking hungry would fill the space nicely and add to his humanity 5 minutes ago, Nic727 said: Also don't forget that I have a 3 words text on top, so maybe it can reveal more than just the image itself. How can we forget something you have not told us previously? Choose those 3 words wisely Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic727 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, carl123 said: A couple of baby robots looking hungry would fill the space nicely and add to his humanity How can we forget something you have not told us previously? Choose those 3 words wisely Ok... I will show you my final poster very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic727 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 Final poster approved by my teacher. I changed some stuffs, but here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 When you walk down the street and see a poster on a wall, there is no one standing next to the poster who will explain to you what the poster is about. In this respect the poster must be able to convey your message on it's own, without any additional input or ambiguity. You choice of the 3 words is excellent, to the extent that if I was now seeing your final poster for the first time my immediate thought of what it represented would be... "A sad, out of work robot" So, in this respect you have nailed that part of it, good luck in the contest and let us know how it goes. Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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