Affinity products for Linux

[Renzatic]

Man. I was downloading Photo for a quick experiment, and I saw that I bought it in 2016. That was 6 years ago!

It made me feel old.

[Mark Ingram]

On 8/14/2022 at 12:49 PM, 1stn00b said:

i find it funny they can't afford better developers if the one they have are unfit to develop on other platforms like Android or Linux

I'm one of those engineers that you're insulting, and I'm also the only engineer to reply to the posts on this thread, trying to help out the community. My time is valuable, and I don't want to waste it reading comments like that.

[ShadeOn]

48 minutes ago, Mark Ingram said:

I'm one of those engineers that you're insulting, and I'm also the only engineer to reply to the posts on this thread, trying to help out the community. My time is valuable, and I don't want to waste it reading comments like that.

Agree here. Not one of us is the same (except some look alike the same, but are not that same/copy of previous soul that inhabited it)

On 8/4/2022 at 7:02 PM, 1stn00b said:

Running with terminal shows they use MoveFileTransactedW that Microsoft say will be deprecated and advises to not be used :

 

Then I am sure like others who didn't reply that you saw noob's finding about this function that you guys use and might affect on further Win 10/11 major updates (those "creative" updates that are each year but in reality it's a half-dusty format of refreshing the internal windows code, and previous versions won't be the same with new ones under the hood) and it already affects on this side too (wine/bottles), besides flickering (I think Wine devs should have some time to check this).

 

 

[Snapseed]

1 hour ago, Mark Ingram said:

I'm one of those engineers that you're insulting, and I'm also the only engineer to reply to the posts on this thread, trying to help out the community. My time is valuable, and I don't want to waste it reading comments like that.

Please be assured that your valuable input has been much appreciated by many of us who have read, or who have contributed to, this particular topic. Thank you.

[1stn00b]

I fail to understand how my "if then" comment insulted anybody, but so be it, i can get lost as i was instructed and get my relevant Affinity Linux/Android news from here : https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/careers/

[ShadeOn]

It is kind of a bad habit mix of words to be used in a phrase per se.

And I think now it's more crucial to find "soon be deprecated" core stuff that can affect future client versions on Windows and Mac (that can affect us too in Wine/Bottles) , then comes new features, and then (and only then) other stuff like Android, SailfishOS, etc.

Better be doing this while waters are calm now than when it's a stormy one and will lead to rash decisions

[Frozen Death Knight]

1 hour ago, 1stn00b said:

I fail to understand how my "if then" comment insulted anybody, but so be it, i can get lost as i was instructed and get my relevant Affinity Linux/Android news from here : https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/careers/

Well, you basically called the developers incompetent and the company they work for too poor to afford "good" developers, which is another slight towards the employees. It's not that hard to grasp.

[1stn00b]

On 8/13/2022 at 11:44 PM, geenat said:

I'm more inclined to believe there just aren't any Linux-inclined developers on staff, or resources are tight enough that its difficult for Affinity executive(s) to justify the Linux build.

My so called "insult" was a direct response to the comment above it.

[D’T4ils]

1 hour ago, 1stn00b said:

My so called "insult" was a direct response to the comment above it.

For the sake of this thread and what we’re all doing here, I need to ask you to stop “explaining” yourself. You were rude, so let’s just apologize and continue with the matter at hand

[HobbesHK]

Hi everyone, just stumbled onto this topic after doing a web search for "how to run Affinity Designer on Linux". The help provided here on how to get the bottle going on Linux has been invaluable - thank you everyone involved. Yes, it's flickering & I can't use a "save as" on a new file, but.... woooo, sooooo close! (Running Manjaro Linux 5.19 with an AMD RX 5700 XT)

I've got a Macbook right next to my PC, but would prefer to just run everything through Linux, so this topic has been very valuable - thank you!!

[Medical Officer Bones]

On 5/29/2022 at 10:35 AM, Kamei Kojirou said:

For my use case at least, I think Krita is the best photo editor on Linux. Which is hilarious because they don't claim to be one, but they are a fork of GIMP, so their is at least an older GIMP instance under the hood without the majority UI/UX issues of GIMP with better UI/UX, CYMK, non-destructive work, effect layers etc.  I think Krita is comparable to Affinity Photo, with a better painting experience, but the photo editing tools aren't well advertised and almost as good, the UI/UX is slightly worse because photo editing isn't the forefront, and their font tool has a weird popup interface to place text.

Krita is NOT a fork of GIMP. Quite the opposite, actually: back in 1998 Matthias Ettrich demonstrated how easy it was to hack a Qt GUI around an existing application, which happened to be GIMP. His patch was never published, and caused friction with the GIMP community at the time.

So because the GIMP community was unable to work together towards a better image editor, people in the KDE project decided to start their own image editor, called KImage. That was the start of Krita. and initially named "KImageShop", meant to be a GUI shell around ImageMagick. The name was then changed to "Krayon" due to existing trademark issues related to "KImageShop", and finally renamed to Krita in 2002.

All of which brings me to mention here that Krita 5.1 was just released.

Krita is wonderful to work with for drawing and painting, in my opinion.

[Kamei Kojirou]

36 minutes ago, Medical Officer Bones said:

Krita is NOT a fork of GIMP. Quite the opposite, actually: back in 1998 Matthias Ettrich demonstrated how easy it was to hack a Qt GUI around an existing application, which happened to be GIMP. His patch was never published, and caused friction with the GIMP community at the time.

So because the GIMP community was unable to work together towards a better image editor, people in the KDE project decided to start their own image editor, called KImage. That was the start of Krita. and initially named "KImageShop", meant to be a GUI shell around ImageMagick. The name was then changed to "Krayon" due to existing trademark issues related to "KImageShop", and finally renamed to Krita in 2002.

All of which brings me to mention here that Krita 5.1 was just released.

Krita is wonderful to work with for drawing and painting, in my opinion.

Cool, thanks for clearing that up! It has some good photo editing abilities as well. That being said it is outstanding for drawing and painting.

[Snapseed]

10 hours ago, Kamei Kojirou said:

Cool, thanks for clearing that up! It has some good photo editing abilities as well. That being said it is outstanding for drawing and painting.

It has been said of Krita that, "It is a photoeditor hidden in paint application". Seriously though, it has a more sane and logical interface than Gimp does and if only Gimp could mimic the Krita way of doing things.

[Renzatic]

3 hours ago, Snapseed said:

It has been said of Krita that, "It is a photoeditor hidden in paint application". Seriously though, it has a more sane and logical interface than Gimp does and if only Gimp could mimic the Krita way of doing things.

It has adjustment layers. That alone puts it well above GIMP.

[Friksel]

On 8/4/2022 at 1:10 PM, PaulEC said:

These stats are for desktops, not tablets! (For tablets Windows has a much lower market share than iOS.)

I'm not talking about tablets either, but desktops with a monitor you can draw on. (to my knowledge Windows tablets-only don't even exists btw)

[azuredusk10]

I tried installing "Designer" via the steps listed on this thread:

I used the Flathub version of Bottles.

Unfortunately, after successfully installing Designer, it doesn't open. I chose the "Open with terminal" option, and this is what was output:

wineserver: using server-side synchronization.
002c:err:wineboot:process_run_key Error running cmd L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winemenubuilder.exe -r" (2).
0120:err:ole:CoGetContextToken apartment not initialised
0160:err:vulkan:wine_vk_instance_load_physical_devices Failed to enumerate physical devices, res=-3
0160:err:vulkan:wine_vkCreateInstance Failed to load physical devices, res=-3

It looks like vulkan couldn't work with my hardware. It's not the first time I've had this problem on my mid-2015 Macbook Pro 15" (MacBookPro11,5) with vulkan - the game Hades gave a similar vulkan error when I tried to run it.

Leaving this post here in case it's useful info for someone else.

[Kajac]

Hey guys. This is interesting for us!

So, recently I had to try to learn how to use some adobe tools (I hate using them) and I ended up discovering that they made extremely functional porting to linux, like a lot of things work correctly.

Does something from there not help to run affinity on linux?

Before anyone comes to talk about JackSparow stuff (Pirate of the Caribbean Software), I have access to Adobe's paid versions for studies, so I'm not here compacting with JackSparow stuff and I want to help run affinity on linux in a legal way, that is valid for any other tool!

Github link!

[wonderings]

On 8/14/2022 at 7:49 AM, 1stn00b said:

Their public filing history : https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/02117968/filing-history doesn't show their about to go bankrupt, or struggling so i find it funny they can't afford better developers if the one they have are unfit to develop on other platforms like Android or Linux : > They have exactly 3 products that generate their income so their growth will come from increasing platform diversity, launching new products and off course a payed upgrade to version 2.0.

You sound like a very entitled Linux user. The only possible reason Affinity would not want to develop for Linux and Android is before they can't afford it? I know it is hard to believe but the majority of the world doesn't share your views on how great Linux is as an OS replacement for MacOS and Windows. It could be as simple as they don't see a return on investment for porting to Linux, advertising, support, etc. The market is very small for Linux, the userbase itself is small, and even smaller still for those who would want or need the type of software Affinity is selling. They have plenty of room to grow in the markets they are currently selling, I would hazard a guess that there is more to be earned with Mac and Windows users vs bringing in a completely new market from the Linux community. 

[Twolane]

The last time I took a look at Linux, I thought someone had booted me back to MS DOS. Arcane interface. Arcane instructions to run anything. Arcane instructions to shove anything to a printer.  Need I go on?

[Michael S Harvey]

What? No request for an OpenBSD version of Affinity? A very stable UNIX environment could do with the support.

To be honest, Serif have to go where the money is. Effort cannot be expended on projects for which there will not be suitable remuneration. Such is the neocapitalist environment of business and the limitation of free market economics.

So, I won't hold my breath for a version for the Amiga or Atari ST.

[Copy]

I'm following this thread because I want to get updates on running Affinity products on Linux.
I was happy to see Affinity engineers responding hoping one day we could have a fully function Affinity suite on Linux - even if it'll never be officially supported.

I really appreciate more people commenting, saying they'd love to have a Linux version.
But can you all please stop with the useless discussions on how (un)popular Linux is and whether an official port would be economical?

Sorry but nobody cares and important replys like the bottle example and the deprecated function call just go down in this whole mess.
Is there any other thread, maybe on a different forum or a discord server, which is not such a huge mess?
Otherwise I'd really appreciate a moderated thread where people who actually know what they're doing (i.e. not me) and maybe even occasionally Affinity engineers can exchange about their findings on how to get things running under Wine - then it also wouldn't take like 10 minutes to find the reply with the kinda working bottle config.

[jaizon]

2 hours ago, Copy said:

then it also wouldn't take like 10 minutes to find the reply with the kinda working bottle config.

Second that, the file should be pinned or something, if we can do that here, ofc.

Believe or not, until a few weeks ago this thread was fine, but all of a sudden all went to shit, and with just a few comments at that!

[jaizon]

Also, the only real issue we're having with Bottles right now is the flickering. As long as that's fixed, I'd consider it fully functional! A few hiccups, like window size and panels can't be dragged in (so if you drag out some of them, you're fu**ed)

[jaizon]

2 hours ago, Twolane said:

The last time I took a look at Linux, I thought someone had booted me back to MS DOS. Arcane interface. Arcane instructions to run anything. Arcane instructions to shove anything to a printer.  Need I go on?

Right now, I don't even know what you are talking about! When was that, 2000?

[Kajac]

40 minutes ago, jaizon said:

Also, the only real issue we're having with Bottles right now is the flickering. As long as that's fixed, I'd consider it fully functional! A few hiccups, like window size and panels can't be dragged in (so if you drag out some of them, you're fu**ed)

Can you save your edits?

I can only open them!