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This thread has been flagged numerous times over the years but more so over the past month. I don't want to give out warnings or lock this thread but I wanted to clarify Affinity’s position regarding

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I'm one of those engineers that you're insulting, and I'm also the only engineer to reply to the posts on this thread, trying to help out the community. My time is valuable, and I don't want to waste

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Recently I was responsible for getting a company to switch over to the Affinity products. (Serif, you're welcome. ) I wanted to share some insights behind one company's process of deciding what design

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On 3/4/2022 at 10:51 AM, MattyWS said:

got photoshop cc to work on linux. It was pretty straight forward, using wine ^^

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So do you have to stay using the exact version you have installed? How does it handle updates? For every update do you have to go through whatever process it took to get it working on Linux?

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I just wonder now, with the advent of Win 11, if we will not start to see an increase in the Linux desktop base. 

I have a bunch of machines, that I use/support. One of which is a reasonable MSI gs73vr 6rf machine. And guess what, it does not meet the Win 11 requirements!

I am sure that I am not the only one that M$ is going to drive away. Really am not in a position to replace any of my machines and I am sure I am not unique in this regard. And with their new hardware requirements, pirated Win 11 is not really going to be a "thing" on aging machines.

For the longest time, one of the biggest impediments to migrating to Linux, was the absence of a "real CAD" package. Now with Draftsight and Ares Commander Linux is certainly more viable for me. Let's face it though, you can function on Linux with Scribus, Inkscape and GIMP/Krita. But none of them really have the UI that Affinity/Adobe have. Thus having a decent suite like Affinity following would just be awesome. 

Just my thoughts following the release of Win 11

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6 hours ago, sceyefeye said:

I have a bunch of machines, that I use/support. One of which is a reasonable MSI gs73vr 6rf machine. And guess what, it does not meet the Win 11 requirements!

I am sure that I am not the only one that M$ is going to drive away. Really am not in a position to replace any of my machines and I am sure I am not unique in this regard. And with their new hardware requirements, pirated Win 11 is not really going to be a "thing" on aging machines.

I don't see Win 11 driving people away, and certainly not into the arms of Linux.  I know one person who's "upgraded", and he's monumentaly unimpressed - everyone else is ignoring it.  fwiw my guess is that MS will extend the support period for Win 10 and hope that the number of people who can't use 11 drops enough that they can be ignored.

AP, AD & APub user, running Win10

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Another pragmatic aproche to multiplatform.

Emacscipten compile code from C, C++ to WASM and run on Browser:

https://emscripten.org/

Porting

Compile your existing projects written in C or C++ — or any language that uses LLVM — to browsers, Node.js, or wasm runtimes.

In this way ported the LibreOffice:

https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/19/webassembly_port_libreoffice

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4 hours ago, IanSG said:

I don't see Win 11 driving people away, and certainly not into the arms of Linux.  I know one person who's "upgraded", and he's monumentaly unimpressed - everyone else is ignoring it.  fwiw my guess is that MS will extend the support period for Win 10 and hope that the number of people who can't use 11 drops enough that they can be ignored.

The way I see things going, with Wine/Proton growing in support and compatibility, and Windows Subsystem for Linux being a thing, I see the future being fairly platform agnostic.

There's no reason to fret when Windows can run Linux apps, and Linux can run Windows apps. Just pick whichever you like best.

EXPERIENCE THE POWER OF LINUX!

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11 minutes ago, Renzatic said:

There's no reason to fret when Windows can run Linux apps

The examples I have seen are totally pointless. How to run gedit on Windows with WSL. gedit... As though there are not dozens of text editors for Windows, and your life would not be complete without running gedit. Go and have a look on YouTube, search for running Linux apps on Windows. And prepare to be enthralled with videos explaining the wonders of gedit on WSL. There's no shortage of gedit videos. Open your mind to wonderful questions such as 'does WSL work well with git version control?'

To be fair there are a few other examples. Kdenlive. My response: why bother? Why not use something like DaVinci Resolve? Or any of the many cheap video editors out there? Then there's GIMP. Why not just run the Windows native version of GIMP?

What is the possible unique selling point, the absolute must have thing, of running Linux apps on Windows? In my view, nothing at all.

By all means run Linux if you want to. If you want a better Linux experience on Windows you should use a full hypervisor system.

Let's not pretend that there are any Linux apps worth having on Windows or Mac which don't have better native versions or equivalents. And please, no more gedit videos.

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8 hours ago, Renzatic said:

I see the future being fairly platform agnostic.


I agree.

One argument that has been held against Linux support for the Affinity Suite, is that it's already being built for 3 platforms and supporting Linux would only hinder support, or progress on those existing platforms.

Agnostic cross-platform development has come a long way in 10 years and many modern development methodologies embrace developing once, for support under multiple platforms.

Perhaps the stronger argument is not to develop a 4th target platform for the Affinity Suite, rather re-approach the development process so there's one body of source that is platform agnostic.  Windows, OSX, Linux, even tablet, largely same source code.  The tools handle cross-compiling natively for target platforms.  I don't suggest it's a trivial task to migrate a code-base, but such a consideration could expand platform support with potentially much lower development overhead going forward.  I'm sure the dev team and such are best positioned to weigh that up though.

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