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On 2/24/2021 at 9:35 AM, Jorgen said:

This means, you have to install apps ONLY by app store which dictates the prices and can choose what apps will run on your Mac

I've never heard such nonsense in my entire life.

This goes for your entire post.

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52 minutes ago, Seneca said:

I've never heard such nonsense in my entire life.

This goes for your entire post.

They try several times to enforce the app store, same as Microsoft did. Both did not succeed in that practice. 

One point which make me think they will enforce it in future is:

1. They already added a notary service to signatures 3rd party apps (not coming from app store). This service costs money and only afterwards it is on list of trusted apps (otherwise you can't run it out of the box)

2. They want to make it more secure and save money, so bundle the desktop os with them mobile os (iOS)

 

Btw this is not nonsense this is the terrible future 😂

And please use next time more friendly words...

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1 hour ago, Renzatic said:

I ran into a situation where I had to use GIMP today, and...

...oh GAWD!

You can understand why even today why some people prefer to use the old Adobe Photoshop CS2 + Wine rather than use Gimp (hence the logical desire for Affinity Photo).

That said, have you tried out any of Krita/Pixeluvo/PencilSheep/Fotoxx depending upon your requirements? All of those softwares are available either from the Ubuntu app store (the first three) or Synaptic Package Manager (the last one).

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28 minutes ago, Snapseed said:

You can understand why even today why some people prefer to use the old Adobe Photoshop CS2 + Wine rather than use Gimp (hence the logical desire for Affinity Photo).

That said, have you tried out any of Krita/Pixeluvo/PencilSheep/Fotoxx depending upon your requirements? All of those softwares are available either from the Ubuntu app store (the first three) or Synaptic Package Manager (the last one).

I actually use and rather enjoy Krita, but it only supports 8 bits per channel. That's normally not a problem, but for those occasions when I start hammering the gaussian blurs on a vignetting spree, you'll see tons of color banding if you're working in a lower bit depth.

Krita gave me some pretty janky results. GIMP? Despite the fact that it claims to support 32-bit float, and despite me converting my image to such. it still had some pretty terrible color banding when I ran my layer through a blur. I ended up having to go back into Krita, and airbrush in my shadowing. It looked good, but it still took me about 10x as long.

It's moments like this when I really, really miss Photo.

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Okay, so Serif aren't keen on giving us a dedicated Linux version, but lets see if we can get it Wine compatible.

If you go here;  https://appdb.winehq.org/  and create a login, then you can vote on what apps you want Wine fixed to work with.

Once you're logged in, search for Affinity and if you go into either of those there should be a 'vote' button. You have three votes, and you can give multiple votes to the same app if you want.

The more votes we can give Affinity, the more likely it is to get fixed for Wine.

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3 hours ago, Renzatic said:

I actually use and rather enjoy Krita, but it only supports 8 bits per channel. That's normally not a problem, but for those occasions when I start hammering the gaussian blurs on a vignetting spree, you'll see tons of color banding if you're working in a lower bit depth.

Krita gave me some pretty janky results. GIMP? Despite the fact that it claims to support 32-bit float, and despite me converting my image to such. it still had some pretty terrible color banding when I ran my layer through a blur. I ended up having to go back into Krita, and airbrush in my shadowing. It looked good, but it still took me about 10x as long.

It's moments like this when I really, really miss Photo.

In view of the issues that you've mentioned, I'd suggest looking at the krita-artists(dot)org website to if you can pick up any useful tips and good luck there.

For anyone who has no option but to use Gimp, then I suggest heading over to Youtube and the Davies Media Design channel where they have loads of free Gimp tutorial videos.

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6 hours ago, Bez Bezson said:

Okay, so Serif aren't keen on giving us a dedicated Linux version, but lets see if we can get it Wine compatible.

If you go here;  https://appdb.winehq.org/  and create a login, then you can vote on what apps you want Wine fixed to work with.

Once you're logged in, search for Affinity and if you go into either of those there should be a 'vote' button. You have three votes, and you can give multiple votes to the same app if you want.

The more votes we can give Affinity, the more likely it is to get fixed for Wine.

Let's give this a try. Cast votes for the latest reported version. We only need 407 votes to be at the top of the list.

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Overall thinking, this is a shame, there is no really good software (beside Krita and Blender) that can produce print ready results.

I understand, linux users would love to have an open source alternative, and that Serif as a company need to make money, as they develop great apps, and neet it to get company running, and earn - this is perfectly fine.

I understand standpoint that *some* of Linux users whoes says that on that system souldn't be any paid software (or at least commercial in any form), in the end this is fully opened source envirioment (beside some examples like enterprise solutions etc.). Just look at problems with graphic card drivers, You need to install *proprietary * drivers alone in some distros, and on some this is just impossible to do, cause the open-source nature.

I also understand, that Serif is worried about small Linux userbase that would buy software on Linux, and that they cannot get back money and reources invested to port their software. And also that, there is so many Linux flavours, hardvare combinations etc. that would have negative influence on porting software. Just imagine situation when users buys software and it's laggy or evend to not run, on system just because there is some differencies in kernels/x-driver or something else.

But I cannot understand that *any* of big players on graphic design software companies field, cannot  at least try to make Linux users life easier, trough a ports or at least improve usage by helping Wine team.

Personally I think that would give only good PR, and first company that step inside Linux world, would be for first a pioneer, and for second *winner* on that field, which could be a perminent trend, an maybe which some time earn new userbase. I know many fellow indie gamedevs, working strongly in Linux space, and having only second partition with Windows for graphic workflow, and they would love to play around only on Linux.

And now Me, for most time I'm a proffesional graphic designer (working in this industry over 15 years), but in recent time as a hobby rather than a job, I'm building mobile apps and games, mostly working on them on Linux, and this would be perfect when i wasn't forced to reboot to second os every time when i need to modify or make new assets. So - yes, I would love to see Affinity software on Linux platform.

Sorry for a long post, but this is only my thinking about this case.

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15 hours ago, Bez Bezson said:

Okay, so Serif aren't keen on giving us a dedicated Linux version, but lets see if we can get it Wine compatible.

If you go here;  https://appdb.winehq.org/  and create a login, then you can vote on what apps you want Wine fixed to work with.

Once you're logged in, search for Affinity and if you go into either of those there should be a 'vote' button. You have three votes, and you can give multiple votes to the same app if you want.

The more votes we can give Affinity, the more likely it is to get fixed for Wine.

Well it got my 3 votes. And I added an appeal for the whole suite.

And as to the discussion re App Stores and the way Apple is going... yes, macOS treats software from sources other than the Store with a load of suspicion. Security supposedly justifying this suspicion. Why then, if that were really the problem, would Linux not be riddled malicious software? And then I think, perhaps for the same reason it isn't riddled with an abundance of good graphics software ;-)

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On 2/25/2021 at 6:57 PM, Bez Bezson said:

Okay, so Serif aren't keen on giving us a dedicated Linux version, but lets see if we can get it Wine compatible.

If you go here;  https://appdb.winehq.org/  and create a login, then you can vote on what apps you want Wine fixed to work with.

Once you're logged in, search for Affinity and if you go into either of those there should be a 'vote' button. You have three votes, and you can give multiple votes to the same app if you want.

The more votes we can give Affinity, the more likely it is to get fixed for Wine.

We are in the top 10 already 👍

Do you think this list has some kind of real impact?

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Would you say Adobe is a major software developer in the graphics and design field?

In the last years, did you see some attempt to make it work reliably on the Wine side?

Lately, since Affinity Photo 1.9, could not even be installed with Wine, I expect it to never be fixed or maybe too late to matter.

Give up your hopes and find alternatives or stick to Windows/MacOS!

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i work on linux mint latest version.

If tomorow i can work with affinity product i take licence tomorrow.

We have figma for ux ui  but no realy good tool like photoshop or illustrator. krita or gimp doesn't have a good workflow.

You have a realy good oprtunity with linux user  in professionnal teams. we have big pc with nvidia card : my linux conf : gpu 12 cores, 48GO ram, rtx 3080. Today i have a subscription on adobe, and yuouir product are very good, why don't you go on linux market ?

i 'm ux ui Professional and web developper. i'm working for development only with linux and docker container, and always need to switch on windows to work for design.

Hope we can have a good solution soon .... and always stay on linux.

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Well,

we do not ask for a full native linux version, but some kind cooperation with WINE/codeweavers folks to help making affinity work under wine.

This would be a much lower ressource investment than building a full blown linux version, i'd expect?

as a dev studio, our machines run ubuntu and we need decent graphic software

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On 2/25/2021 at 11:46 PM, bor said:

But I cannot understand that *any* of big players on graphic design software companies field, cannot  at least try to make Linux users life easier, trough a ports or at least improve usage by helping Wine team.

Might not be a big player, but the PhotoLine devs actively support running their software on Wine. Combine with Krita and you have a pretty good solution for doing design work. Even color management is supported via Little CMS under Wine and Linux in PhotoLine.

On 3/17/2021 at 11:43 AM, emmanuel31 said:

krita [...] doesn't have a good workflow

I beg to differ. Digital painting in Krita is brilliant, and the overall workflow and GUI are just fine. A marked improvement over Affinity Photo in regards to digital drawing and painting in my opinion.

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On 3/14/2021 at 10:20 AM, gnx said:

We are in the top 10 already 👍

Do you think this list has some kind of real impact?

The numbers are so small for people voting, especially when you get 3 votes. So all the votes for Affinity could really be 3x less if people are doing what they say and voting 3 times for the same thing. Not a huge number of eager people, or it just has not reached all that many people who care. Judging by the amount of threads and posts in the numerous Linux discussions on this form I would have expected it to sky rocket to number 1 in a day at least. 

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36 minutes ago, wonderings said:

The numbers are so small for people voting, especially when you get 3 votes. So all the votes for Affinity could really be 3x less if people are doing what they say and voting 3 times for the same thing. Not a huge number of eager people, or it just has not reached all that many people who care. Judging by the amount of threads and posts in the numerous Linux discussions on this form I would have expected it to sky rocket to number 1 in a day at least. 

There are a lot of hoops you have to jump through to be able to vote on the WINE page, hence why even the most popular apps on the site have fairly low numbers.

If you want a better example of how big the WINE scene actually is, it's better to hit up ProtonDB.

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13 hours ago, Predrag said:

I do not understand.  

Macos is an axis based on the unix bsd platform.  

What's the problem with doing the linux version?

I asked that and I think the basic answer is choice of UI toolkit, i.e. it's not based on a cross platform one, and also the varied graphics card support.

In contrast look at Corel's AfterShot, based on the cross platform Bibble it supports Linux, macOS and even Windows! 🙂 and generally has no issues with graphics card support.

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On 3/23/2021 at 12:06 PM, ernorubbik said:

Well,

we do not ask for a full native linux version, but some kind cooperation with WINE/codeweavers folks to help making affinity work under wine.

This would be a much lower ressource investment than building a full blown linux version, i'd expect?

as a dev studio, our machines run ubuntu and we need decent graphic software

If your dev studio needs decent graphic software what are they doing now? If decent graphic software was needed I would think it would make more sense to buy the computer that works with the software needed not a computer for an OS that the software needed to do the job does not work on.

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