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6 hours ago, ꜱᴩʀɪᴛᴇ➀ said:

I feel like this would err on the side of edge cases though... Serif realistically only needs to make sure it runs on the latest Ubuntu LTS and the rest of the Linux community will make it work on their distro of choice

I am sure, but it's about assuring same experience on all the OSes, the reliability of the output, to get the same thing everywhere, even a specific distro is targeted and required, sspecially for design. I don't say it's impossible, but there are times when things go crazy, maybe once in a few years. I know, I use Linux since '96 and it's my main OS and I love it for its freedom, not necessarily for its initial price.

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Received the news with hope ... (solid Windows user here, but I hope one day one will be able run all major market-relevant pro apps in linux) Then I realized is not an important app, even more, is an Electron desktop app with a custom Chromium bundled. I'll jump from my realistic ship (not really, but at least go back to dual boot) once I see something like a single Office app (not necessarily all the suite) like MS Word or Excel to be made with native code for Linux. As if not, the performance, compatibility, limited access etc will still be there.

It's a step forward, but I have seen tons of times MS do this... shy steps forward, and then closing the project or abandoning it . Particularly in graphic software...Hello, Expression Design...after acquiring it from a Japanese company (as often, that country produces some of the best painting and graphics software, dunno why) they stopped its development after a short while. Happened too many times. I'm just not willing to get hopeful about it until I see more decisive movements. So far is the only OS (VERY ironically, if you think of it) making a serious approach to Linux. But like I say, I'll wait and see, just yet. As I could subscribe totally this paragraph form the linked article :

"   It's been quite the journey for Microsoft. The idea that we'd be reporting on Office for Linux, even five years ago, would have been ridiculous. But under the stewardship of Satya Nadella, the feud between Linux and the Big M has turned into a partnership of equals - with the acquisition of the Github repository being the cherry on a very large cake.   "

Who knew... !  Maybe you'll have to owe Linux's strong entrance in the graphic market thanks to its archenemy... which is so weird that I like it.

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A friend came to celebrate my son birthday. He recently bought an pretty expensive camera and lens (of about 2000$) and was concerned about its quality. I've shown him how to shoot in several conditions, from dark to bright light. I had not used Photoshop and Windows in a long time, despite I still inertially pay for CC. So, to get to them, we had to wait half of hour to upgrade, pass the BIOS setting of disabling the VT-d (Windows won't boot with it enabled after years of reporting this by so many users), even a long restart with upgrading, slow desktop due to high disk usage from the recently added batch that scans intensively the disk to feed Lightroom (as the Adobbe support told me), and upgrading the CC apps (the option was turned on, so who cares I was needeing it?). I wanted him to see what means to have all in one vs. the chain I use under Linux. After all the waiting, he was not willing to boot Windows again to show him some features. We've used Linux instead, where I look at raw images in Gwenview, develop in RawTherapee or Darktable, stitch with Hugin, retouch with Gimp with Resynthesizer, make HDR's with Luminance HDR. It's a bit more complicated to install them on Windows than on Linux, but he asked for those instead CC. Fun fact, as I use KDE and I was not mentioned I'm on Linux, he thought I have some skin solution for Windows. I was just browsing for files with Dolphin, and he asked me what is that and where to download it, for its panels and tabs features (that Microsoft announced and cancelled after...). I told him what was that about... He noticed how fast my Linux was by comparison to the bloated Windows (which is good, but full of tasks I don't even need or use, but I can't stop, as they are "fixed" to run again and again by the further updates). I know, I could boost my Windows system a bit with SSDs, but they failed in two years, so I wait for a more reliable ones and use the good old HDDs. I don't really need those with Linux. So, well, I stick with Linux for a better experience from all I need to do.

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The chicken and the egg...
I have a very old PC with Win 7; I don't want  Win 10 and  would like to switch to Linux but I'm blocked by Affinity which doesn't offer anything for it.
I can wait a long time then !?

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Interested to know what the tech stack of Affinity products are. I read that the Windows version was discontinued and then re-released, so I imagine the code bases are dissimilar, and perhaps the macOS version is using more Swift flavours of Obj C (UIKit?).

I use MacOS and switch to Linux for work with CUDA and NVIDIA graphics cards. I tried Windows but it is far too cloying and ugly to use. So from a sort of dyed-in-the-wool millennial macbook-user perspective, it is really encouraging when I see Linux support. And without being too bombastic, it is like being on the right side of history - when people are looking to switch out invasive and crappy tech from their lives. 

Adobe = Windows - crappy popups / heaving megalith
Affinity = macOS / PopOS / Elementary - fast, does what it’s meant to

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I recently switched over to Linux elementary OS. It's such a game-changer, it's hard for me to turn back. I even sacrificed my Windows programs to run alternate software as a single-boot system. Virtualization is a pain and an Affinity port would be VERY welcome. At least have the software run as an AppImage (it runs universally on all distros - more info here). Rizom UV, a 3d texture mapper, has now Linux support when it has always been primarily Windows software and it uses AppImage. For Affinity, this would be a good option to reduce overhead.

Linux FTW - it's the future!

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On 1/23/2020 at 8:53 AM, Aut said:

I read that the Windows version was discontinued and then re-released

Not sure where you got this from...

Prior to the Affinity products Serif had another product line, the Plus series.  That series was Windows-only.

The Affinity products were initially released only on the Mac, but later added versions for the inferior platform.

After those Windows versions of the Affinity products were released, the older Plus series was discontinued.

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I have been a Windows user since Windows 3.0, I think it's time I parted ways with that OS as I don't like the direction things are going with windows (patching,security, etc). I currently own Affinity and pay the monthly stipend to Adobe CC. I dislike having to pay that every month and would prefer to purchase my software outright.  Linux is mature enough and now friendly enough for me to switch, but I can't make the switch as I am a part time photographer and need a good photo editing software (GIMP is not for me). I am adding my voice to the request for a Linux version. I will gladly pay for your excellent software. I am a big fan of what your guys are doing. 

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If someone had told me over ten years ago that one day I would be using a phone with an OS based on a Linux kernel, I'd have told the person they were insane. Today, Android is the most popular mobile OS on non-Apple phones. Something like this seemed impossible to many people at that time, but Google has proved that nothing is impossible in this respect, and they have won the game.

Despite the fact that Microsoft Windows has been ruling for decades in the PC market, there is still a niche for a good desktop OS, there’s no doubt about it. The fact is that, on the one hand, the quality of Windows is getting worse and worse with every update, and it has now become a bloatware monster, cluttered with tons of useless functions and numerous inconsistencies. On the other hand, the hardware quality and price policy offered by Apple put off many users and companies, which are now more than ever before willing to reduce their costs. Many of them simply go back to Windows only because the software they use at work runs on Windows, and not because Windows is a fantastic operating system.

In this situation Linux seems to be the only alternative to Windows. It's far better than Windows in many ways, for example, it's more stable, secure, flexible and customizable. However, the major problem with Linux is not the plethora of different distros, but the lack of high quality proprietary software for professionals (photographers, graphic designers, film makers, etc.). Linux with commercial proprietary software for professionals could probably quite easily fill this void in the market, and, as a result, gain more popularity.

Some of you probably know that Intel has been working on its own Linux distribution for some time (Debian based), the project is called Clear Linux. They've already imported 4000 apps into their app repository, and they're going to double this number in the next two years. The aim of the project is to make their own Linux distro that will be fully compatible with all Intel processors (both CPUs and GPUs). This will allow them to control the hardware and software, just like Apple does. Who knows, maybe in a couple of years Intel will become a hardware-software company (they have both financial and human resources to do that). By the way, Nvidia are also thinking about something similar in their future business model. Moreover, Google has been working for a few years on their new operating system called Fuchsia, which will probably be both mobile and desktop OS (with a Linux kernel, just like Android). Look what you can do today with Samsung Dex, such solutions can be in fact the core of next-gen operating systems.

Some people from Serif say here that making their software for yet another platform is very hard, both from technical and financial point of view. It's true of course, software development requires a lot of resources, but you should remember that it's not impossible, and it may pay off the company in the long run. Saying that doing something doesn't suit the business model of the company is also quite risky - keep in mind that the market is very dynamic, trends are changing with time, something that today seems pointless tomorrow may turn out to be very profitable. Serif could pave the way for Linux to become a serious alternative for many creatives in the future. I guess it's worthwhile now to keep a close eye on Linux, and never say 'never'.

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