Affinity products for Linux

[SreckoM]

Here is also this.

https://www.omglinux.com/devs-prefer-linux-to-mac-stackoverflow-survey/

[jaizon]

On 12/31/2022 at 6:21 PM, emko said:

what codecs? many professionals use resolve just fine so not sure whats missing? unless you are talking about the free version? resolve was made for linux only later ported to other OS

Yeah, that's mostly for non-pro, although some people mentioned other problems too in a FB group for Resolve I was in (that was probably in version 15 or 16 though), but still.

But even now, there's still some problems that show up, like with AMD graphic cards for example.

[jaizon]

1 hour ago, SreckoM said:

https://www.omglinux.com/devs-prefer-linux-to-mac-stackoverflow-survey/

Oh yeah, Linux-based OSs are in the top when it comes to being used by developers, mostly for personal use but also in corporate

[Unleavened Tech]

Of course the argument you'd hear against that from Serif is that "the Affinity suite is primarily targeted towards graphics designers and not developers", which might be true, but most "professional graphics designers" (whom it's their job) are going to use Adobe products anyways, since it's the industry standard. And a lot of (especially indie) developers also need graphics editing software too, for making icons, game texture, etc.

[jaizon]

2 minutes ago, Unleavened Tech said:

Of course the argument you'd hear against that from Serif is that "the Affinity suite is not primarily targeted towards graphics designers and not developers", which might be true, but most "professional graphics designers" (whom it's their job) are going to use Adobe products anyways, since it's the industry standard. And a lot of (especially indie) developers also need graphics editing software too, for making icons, game texture, etc.

There's also content creators, be it in social media, bloggers, vloggers, writers, etc. Almost everyone today needs a vector or raster software in some capacity. If given the option, I'd rather have it than don't.

TBH, and this is a completely baseless argument, I would guess that even if they'd port only the 1.10 version to Linux it'd sell, as we don't really have anything to go against it. And please, don't even joke about Photopea/ GIMP/ Inkscape/ Scribus.

[Snapseed]

3 hours ago, jaizon said:

There's also content creators, be it in social media, bloggers, vloggers, writers, etc. Almost everyone today needs a vector or raster software in some capacity. If given the option, I'd rather have it than don't.

TBH, and this is a completely baseless argument, I would guess that even if they'd port only the 1.10 version to Linux it'd sell, as we don't really have anything to go against it. And please, don't even joke about Photopea/ GIMP/ Inkscape/ Scribus.

Then the logical thing to to do is use paid-for professional grade software that can run on Linux such as VivaDesigner and PhotoLine+Wine:

 

[jaizon]

16 minutes ago, Snapseed said:

Then the logical thing to to do is use paid-for professional grade software that can run on Linux such as VivaDesigner and PhotoLine+Wine:

Sure, that's what most of us here are looking for, a good paid software to go to Linux so that we can get productive

[emko]

1 minute ago, jaizon said:

Sure, that's what most of us here are looking for, a good paid software to go to Linux so that we can get productive

at this point i think we are better off donating to GIMP to have more full time devs that way we don' t need to rely on companies, something like how blender is becoming very good alternative to payed software.

[jaizon]

10 minutes ago, emko said:

at this point i think we are better off donating to GIMP to have more full time devs that way we don' t need to rely on companies, something like how blender is becoming very good alternative to payed software.

Blender is backed up by big companies, also, GIMP is a completely different story, it already has great tools and functionality but a really bad ui/ux.

[Snapseed]

4 hours ago, jaizon said:

Sure, that's what most of us here are looking for, a good paid software to go to Linux so that we can get productive

I also use Gravit Designer (now Corel Vector) for any design work I have to do although my design needs are relatively modest.

[emko]

Oh wow just found my solution GIMP 3 seems to fix most of my problems with GIMP. The beta is on flatpak finally can ditch windows and Adobe 

[Snapseed]

3 hours ago, jaizon said:

Blender is backed up by big companies, also, GIMP is a completely different story, it already has great tools and functionality but a really bad ui/ux.

Gimp's sucky interface can be cured with the addition of the PhotoGimp patch so it then looks like it has joined the 21st century. While the current development team has made good and useful progress, Gimp is still missing essential features like non-destructive editing and full, inbuilt CMYK capability and that will hopefully start to change with the Gimp 3.0+ series of releases.

[emko]

2 minutes ago, Snapseed said:

Gimp's sucky interface can be cured with the addition of the PhotoGimp patch so it then looks like it has joined the 21st century. While the current development team has made good and useful progress, Gimp is still missing essential features like non-destructive editing and full, inbuilt CMYK capability and that will hopefully start to change with the Gimp 3.0+ series of releases.

Ya can't wait maybe with more funding they can increase the development speed 

[chiddekel]

On 12/29/2022 at 7:55 AM, emko said:

Naa just build once using flatpak 

It's depend - flatpak || build distro package, after automate build process in pipe CI/CD are equal good options.The best solution ( less amount of work )
for now is integrate existing code base and use steamworks SDK (for Games and Apps) in partner program:
Steam partners -  https://partner.steamgames.com/
 

[j0e.org]

12 hours ago, Snapseed said:

I also use Gravit Designer (now Corel Vector) for any design work I have to do although my design needs are relatively modest.

Gravit made a good start before years. But it appears that the development has stopped. Am I wrong?

[emko]

9 hours ago, chiddekel said:

It's depend - flatpak || build distro package, after automate build process in pipe CI/CD are equal good options.The best solution ( less amount of work )
for now is integrate existing code base and use steamworks SDK (for Games and Apps) in partner program:
Steam partners -  https://partner.steamgames.com/
 

building for all distros can be a nightmare, would have to deal with what ever dependencies they have etc, i would rather they take the easy path and use flatpak so it runs on all distros and can be easily updated

[chiddekel]

14 hours ago, emko said:

building for all distros can be a nightmare, would have to deal with what ever dependencies they have etc, i would rather they take the easy path and use flatpak so it runs on all distros and can be easily updated

Only RPM or DEB for most distro.
If relate on system dependency and don't provide them for example inside /opt/affinity/*.*  then true. 
For Flatpak can either provide any runtime version - event outdated.

So good rethink how provide automated CI/CD on Flatpak  || RPM and DEB solution can be quite easy.
Flatpak for start and after working on - provide RPM and DEB package.

[SreckoM]

I would do just Flatpak. There is no need to complicate things.

[chiddekel]

19 hours ago, SreckoM said:

I would do just Flatpak. There is no need to complicate things.

SreckoM - for start, perfect choice - for the record - complicated things it's consists of many simple ones.
Flatpak has rich Linux Desktop support and even ChromeOS
https://flatpak.org/setup/

[chiddekel]

Hard to say it, buy the target which can be benefit for linux distro user is ChromeOS:

https://chromeos.dev/en

270 Milion Active Android users on ChromeOS, tablets, and foldables^[1]

50Milion Students and educators using Chromebooks worldwide^[2]

 

[jaizon]

2 minutes ago, chiddekel said:

Hard to say it, buy the target which can be benefit for linux distro user is ChromeOS:

https://chromeos.dev/en

270 Milion Active Android users on ChromeOS, tablets, and foldables^[1]

50Milion Students and educators using Chromebooks worldwide^[2]

 

I wouldn't, the hardware would be an issue.

Sure, there are great Chromebooks but the majority isn't geared towards performance, but optimisation instead.

But let's say they'd work on a version for Chromebooks, wouldn't it just be an Android version instead?

 

 

[chiddekel]

On 1/13/2023 at 1:07 PM, jaizon said:

I wouldn't, the hardware would be an issue.

Sure, there are great Chromebooks but the majority isn't geared towards performance, but optimisation instead.

But let's say they'd work on a version for Chromebooks, wouldn't it just be an Android version instead?

 

 

ChromeOs on chromebook support Flatpak - so version of Affinty can be deilver booth linux and ChromeOs

[jaizon]

43 minutes ago, chiddekel said:

ChromeOs on chromebook support Flatpak - so version of Affinty can be deilver booth linux and ChromeOs

Sure, but that wouldn't be "targeted" at Chromebooks, then. Also, most Chromebooks wouldn't be able to handle AP. Hardware limitation is real.

I mean, even the new so called "Gaming Chromebooks" are meant for cloud gaming. I don't really see a reason for anyone to invest in creating a software like AP or PS aimed at these devices.

[D’T4ils]

I don’t know if you’ve seen his, but Windows MSI installers for V2 have been released!

 

 

[emko]

12 minutes ago, D’T4ils said:

I don’t know if you’ve seen his, but Windows MSI installers for V2 have been released!

 

 

you tested it on WINE?