MattyWS Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 4:18 PM, wonderings said: So do you have to stay using the exact version you have installed? How does it handle updates? For every update do you have to go through whatever process it took to get it working on Linux? Yes sadly there really isn't an update path. I got the application running and it works fine but thats as far as it goes. But hey thats all I needed for now, ^^ Really wish affinity would run via wine at the very least. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderings Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 hours ago, MattyWS said: Yes sadly there really isn't an update path. I got the application running and it works fine but thats as far as it goes. But hey thats all I needed for now, ^^ Really wish affinity would run via wine at the very least. Have to say I don't. understand why you would pay for an Adobe subscription when it is a hassle to get running and keep up to date. Again I see this as putting the cart before the horse. If I need an app the app is priority and the OS secondary. I make a living with the app, the OS is just a preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 hours ago, MattyWS said: Yes sadly there really isn't an update path. I got the application running and it works fine but thats as far as it goes. But hey thats all I needed for now, ^^ Really wish affinity would run via wine at the very least. 1-st solution - is the simple update path if distribute by flatpak https://flatpak.org/ if app and library will provide by flatpak repo - then Linux Distro agnostic. 2nd solution - If compile to WASM - https://emscripten.org/ and provide on server as Saas - then ( team manage update on server ) and user always have recent app version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 2:08 PM, LondonSquirrel said: ... is that the Linux desktop market share is not worth time/money developing for. Look on office 365 - they have web version so it's not Linux desktop version issue - but rather make work despite which platform is using for run the product. This unlocking possibility to reach Home Use on Linux Dekstop and have big impact of Corporations Linux Workstations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 14 hours ago, LondonSquirrel said: A web version, as indeed you write, is not a Linux version. Yes and no - because - it's version that support run on Linux 🙂 through browser like Chrome, Firefox, etc. @ this point make Web version by compile with https://emscripten.org/ toolchain to WASM solve this problem - This can be a new source of profit by consume for example the Saas Model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 🚀 WebAssembly is the perfect runtime for server-side (or serverless) applications (example on RUST + nodejs)https://www.secondstate.io/articles/why-webassembly-server/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzatic Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Is this...how it ends? Not with a bang, but with silence? The only sound being the pat-pat-patter of quiet tears we shed in the dark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamei Kojirou Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Renzatic said: Is this...how it ends? Not with a bang, but with silence? The only sound being the pat-pat-patter of quiet tears we shed in We are more likely to see Android support before Linux support. And so far Serif isn't even interested in that. Most of us voted on WineHQ for support because that path at this point looks to be much more likely. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeusz Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 On 5/17/2022 at 2:05 AM, Kamei Kojirou said: We are more likely to see Android support before Linux support. And so far Serif isn't even interested in that. Most of us voted on WineHQ for support because that path at this point looks to be much more likely. I am looking forward to Linux version but indeed Android devices are much more popular than iPAD's. Probably Serif has some agreement and extra funds for doing software for specific systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 On 5/17/2022 at 3:05 AM, Kamei Kojirou said: We are more likely to see Android support before Linux support. I'm quite prepared to be told that I'm completely wrong, but, as I understand it, Android devices are mainly smart phones and tablets. I just wonder how many people are going to want to do serious page layout, photo editing or design work on such small devices? Surely people using these devices are more likely to want simple, one click solutions, rather than trying to use full blown apps like the Affinity trio. The important thing is not how many people use a particular device, or operating system, but how many of those people are likely to want to buy the apps! Renzatic and Bez Bezson 2 Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Build Linux app for gnome:https://developer.gnome.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Build Linux app for KDE:https://develop.kde.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Flatpak, universal way to server application for any Linux Distro:https://flatpak.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuernseyMan Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Build C64 app: https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/BASIC nMAC, Old Bruce, IanSG and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 58 minutes ago, GuernseyMan said: Build C64 app: https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/BASIC Or as abstraction on virtual hardware https://www.nand2tetris.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0aster Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/18/2022 at 8:25 AM, PaulEC said: I'm quite prepared to be told that I'm completely wrong, but, as I understand it, Android devices are mainly smart phones and tablets. I just wonder how many people are going to want to do serious page layout, photo editing or design work on such small devices? Surely people using these devices are more likely to want simple, one click solutions, rather than trying to use full blown apps like the Affinity trio. The important thing is not how many people use a particular device, or operating system, but how many of those people are likely to want to buy the apps! So, I‘ve got Affinity on my Mac and my iPad, and if I were to do ‘serious’ editing, I would only do it on my Mac. I think the whole Android route is a blind alley. I guess I am also saying why do Serif prefer iPad over Linux? Must be sheer weight of numbers. And that’s it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuernseyMan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 The vast majority of my friends, anecdotally, who have Macs also have iPads (a number of my Windows using friends also have iPads). Once you've bought into the Apple ecosystem you may as well continue. I would think that anyone who buys Affinity products for Mac will simply buy a copy for iPad, maybe not to do serious work but certainly to be "cool". I don't see that same kind of loyalty with Android devices so there probably wouldn't be the cross selling opportunity. And yes, its weight of numbers which means that Serif prioritises iPad over Linux. I'm on quite a few software forums and they all have a thread like this one. What it all boils down to is that it's not worth supporting Linux; the money just isn't there. chiddekel and PaulEC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 12 hours ago, GuernseyMan said: What it all boils down to is that it's not worth supporting Linux; the money just isn't there. The money solutions is write ✍️ for Steam Os and put in on their store. Here is link to guide for port app to Steam Os with set of recommended tools https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/application/platforms/linux PSDfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuernseyMan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 But why, that's the question. What money could there possibly be from this? If Serif have any business sense, and I would suggest that they have, they will go after the largest market segment they can: Adobe users. How many Adobe products are on Steam? How many Adobe users run Linux? You might be able to get Adobe CS working on Linux but it won't be supported. If it's not supported then it won't be used for production in any professional company. Why would Serif support a gaming platform, which isn't their core demographic, so that they can target the 1.4% of gamers on that platform which run Linux? I enjoy using Linux as much as the next person but the reality is that without market share software houses won't write, or port, software to Linux. Mark Ingram 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapseed Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 hours ago, GuernseyMan said: But why, that's the question. What money could there possibly be from this? If Serif have any business sense, and I would suggest that they have, they will go after the largest market segment they can: Adobe users. How many Adobe products are on Steam? How many Adobe users run Linux? You might be able to get Adobe CS working on Linux but it won't be supported. If it's not supported then it won't be used for production in any professional company. Why would Serif support a gaming platform, which isn't their core demographic, so that they can target the 1.4% of gamers on that platform which run Linux? I enjoy using Linux as much as the next person but the reality is that without market share software houses won't write, or port, software to Linux. Pixeluvo is on Steam and it's an excellent, modern photo editor (a Photoshop Elements equivalent) for Windows and Linux. Links: http://www.pixeluvo.com/downloads/pixeluvo_1.6.0-2_amd64.deb http://www.pixeluvo.com/downloads/pixeluvo-1.6.0-2.x86_64.rpm http://www.pixeluvo.com/buynow/ The 30 day trial version is limited to saving files no larger than 800×600 pixels. It has an excellent, easy to navigate UI and Gimp could learn a lot from it. chiddekel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapseed Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, LondonSquirrel said: Good. Now to the most important question... did you buy this excellent, modern photo editor? My answers are these: 1. I paid for the full licence for Pixeluvo because it is so good. Indeed, I regard it as the best general Linux photo editor that is currently available. 2. I have been able to completely banish Gimp from my computer and it will never return. While useful progress has been made in recent years, it is still not yet up to the usability level of Photoshop, etc although the PhotoGimp plugin might help some people. 3. Here is an example of the excellent work that this photo editor can do: 4. I do recommend Affinity Photo to Windows and macOS users because l have seen what Affinity Photo can do plus there's no permanent subscription as there is with Abobe Photoshop. I should add that Pixeluvo for Linux is not in any way a competitor for Affinity Photo precisely because Serif Europe does not offer any products for Linux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSG Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Snapseed said: Pixeluvo is on Steam and it's an excellent, modern photo editor (a Photoshop Elements equivalent) for Windows and Linux. According to Pixeluvo's website there isn't a Linux version! chiddekel 1 Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 9 hours ago, Snapseed said: I paid for the full licence for Pixeluvo because it is so good. Indeed, I regard it as the best general Linux photo editor that is currently available. chiddekel 1 Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiddekel Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 10 hours ago, Snapseed said: Pixeluvo is on Steam and it's an excellent, modern photo editor (a Photoshop Elements equivalent) for Windows and Linux. Links: http://www.pixeluvo.com/downloads/pixeluvo_1.6.0-2_amd64.deb http://www.pixeluvo.com/downloads/pixeluvo-1.6.0-2.x86_64.rpm http://www.pixeluvo.com/buynow/ The 30 day trial version is limited to saving files no larger than 800×600 pixels. It has an excellent, easy to navigate UI and Gimp could learn a lot from it. Confirm the pixeluvo - it's work. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapseed Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 hours ago, IanSG said: According to Pixeluvo's website there isn't a Linux version! 7 hours ago, PaulEC said: 1. The direct download links from the official Pixeluvo website for the Debian/Ubuntu .deb version and the RedHat/Fedora/SUSE .rpm version as provided above are all still working so they can still be downloaded and can then paid for. 2. The reason for the temporary public withdrawal is technical. There are issues with Pixeluvo fully working well with Linux distributions where the Wayland display server protocol is set as the default. 3. Wayland* is still effectively in beta stage and so there are problems with gaming, Nvidia chip sets, Electron apps and so on. If anyone using Linux + Wayland is having any issues with Pixeluvo or other software then the options are to switch back to the Xorg display server or to enable XWayland (check the instructions on how to do this for your own installed Linux distribution). *Since the RedHat/Fedora/Gnome interchangeable crowd currently and regrettably has too much (malign) influence over desktop Linux these days, they have been able to put out second rate crapola like Wayland that is at beta stage, that has numerous not addressed bugs and that causes significant problems for users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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