Redsandro Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 12 hours ago, jpintos said: If Serif open a presale (like a kickstarter crow funding) selling a Linux Version and supossing they raise i don know.... $500.000 (i don't know what number could be profitable to make a Linux Version) and if the goal is not raised the money is back and do nothing. Affinity had already responded to this idea a year or two ago and rejected this. The last suggestion from the community that does not have a fully informed response is to work around the Wine incompatibility (and perhaps package a Wine-loaded appImage to offer on the download page). Perhaps they can consider a fundraiser for investigating the wine incompatibility. Snapseed and Bez Bezson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapseed Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 12:34 AM, ChrisWhy said: I'm a professional designer who uses Linux. I would purchase Affinity products if they supported Linux, or even just made their apps work in Wine. Blender, Maya, DaVinci Resolve, Gravit Designer... All are great graphics tools and run on Linux. GIMP, Inkscape, and Scribus are all pretty good, but if Affinity offered theirs, I would switch. There are already professional grade softwares available to Linux users in those areas including, but not limited to, PhotoLine + Wine, Figma (universal Electron app) and VivaDesigner (native Linux). The issue there is that they are not as well known as they should be. Bez Bezson, ChrisWhy and SrPx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bez Bezson Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Snapseed said: There are already professional grade softwares available to Linux users in those areas including, but not limited to, PhotoLine + Wine, Figma (universal Electron app) and VivaDesigner (native Linux). The issue there is that they are not as well known as they should be. How does VivaDesigner compare to Affinity & InDesign? If it's closer to them than Scribus, I'll have to give it a whirl. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzatic Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bez Bezson said: How does VivaDesigner compare to Affinity & InDesign? If it's closer to them than Scribus, I'll have to give it a whirl. I'm far from being well versed with the desktop publishers, but I did download the .appimage just to try it out, and it seems...okay. It's easy to find out for yourself, since you don't have to install anything, nor register to try out the demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapseed Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 19 hours ago, Bez Bezson said: How does VivaDesigner compare to Affinity & InDesign? If it's closer to them than Scribus, I'll have to give it a whirl. I'm afraid I can't answer that question since I'm a 100% Linux user and so I can't compare it to Affinity or InDesign for obvious reasons. What I can say is that I think the Linux version is competent desktop publishing software. Why not try the free or demo version and see how you get on with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrPx Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Several times I've visited Figma, in its updates, what it can do , etc,... great for what it is designed for, fast and flexible prototyping, working with a team, for webs and apps... As a graphic design (specially for print, more complex designs, etc) package, with enough tools... Quite basic compared to Affinity Designer or Inkscape. IMO. Scribus... Not an easy UI, that's for sure. But seems it is capable. Can't say more as I've only used publishing tools when some project have needed it, not versed on it. Quote AD, AP and APub. V1.10.6 (not using v1.x anymore) and V2.4.x. Windows 10 and Windows 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarian Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 "How does VivaDesigner compare to Affinity & InDesign? If it's closer to them than Scribus, I'll have to give it a whirl." http://www.viva.us/en/products/desktop-publishing/vivadesigner-desktop-version As someone who tried out VivaDesigner soon after the arrival of the cloud...yes, THAT PARTICULAR cloud (before the arrival of Affinity Publisher)...I can say that--albeit using the free version--it is most impressive. The typographic tools are QUITE good (which SHOULD be expected from a software that was once sold by Linotype). The free version doesn't offer a facility for the full range of features included in the importation of graphic files, but--if one reads the web site--VivaDesigner is the single most impressive COMMERCIAL layout software ever devised for use under Mac, Windows, AND Linux. For starters, it is the ONLY package that imports AND exports files in .IDML format, imports PDF as native objects, AND imports .INDD files. I am planning to buy a copy of VivaDesigner to run beside Affinity Publisher to use it as a conversion tool. Having said all that--and having used both of them--Affinity Publisher leaves VD in the dust in six areas. 1) Price: VivaDesigner is not sold on subscription but is about $399.00 USD from the straight buy ($299 if you're able to do a "crossgrade" from certain Layout packages) AND THAT IS FOR A SINGLE LICENSE with NO second computer being considered (at the time of purchase, Viva offers a second license for roughly $30-50 USD additionally). 2) UI: Affinity Publisher has a MUCH more inviting UI than VivaDesigner. Don't believe me? Download the free version of VD and use the stylesheets. 3) StudioLink: " 'Nuff said." 4) Support for Pantone. 5) Supported on the Linux platform 6) As mentioned before, it is the only layout package that will--independent of an InDesign installation--import .INDD files and export .IDML files. I plan to buy it because--in addition to running Windows and Mac--I run Linux as a production environment (Blender, BlackMagic Fusion, Enve...). By the way, for those of you running AD on Windows, you should try running Enve on Windows and importing your SVG files exported from AD and animating them. Enve is an open source, 2D animation software that runs on Linux and Windows... https://maurycyliebner.github.io/. Enve has a feel that reminds me of old school Macromedia Flash. SrPx and blackbird9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Quarian said: ...Affinity Publisher leaves VD in the dust in six areas. ... 4) Support for Pantone. ... Did you mean to say VD does not support Pantone? However, there are not as many installed Ptone pallets. They are relatively simple XML files, though. The latest update also added direct .indt support. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarian Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 "However, there are not as many installed Ptone pallets." Precisely. I should have been more clear. I stand corrected, sir, and tip my hat to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlvx Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I am currently trying to switch fully to Linux and Adobe is the only thing keeping a dual boot on my system. I am very interested in this so I figured I would sign up and and be counted as a potential customer. I would even be okay with a Proton solution until the market warrants a full Linux build. cfbauer, Bez Bezson, Snapseed and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bteifeld Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 22 hours ago, Quarian said: "However, there are not as many installed Ptone pallets." Precisely. I should have been more clear. I stand corrected, sir, and tip my hat to you. Pantone offers two ways to get correct color values(L*a*b* numbers) for all of their fan decks: Pantone Connect- www.pantone.com/connect Pantone Color Manager- for mac, https://www.pantone.com/media/downloads/software/Pantone_Color_Manager_Mac.zip and for pc- https://www.pantone.com/media/downloads/software/Pantone_Color_Manager_Windows.zip Pantone Color Manager requires that you own an X-Rite color measurement device , or order a license key in order for it to work. Although the website states that it cannot be ordered on the website, you can get a license key by making a phone-based order. The advantage of Pantone Color Manager is that it allows you to export the fan deck L*a*b* color values in a .ASE file, which Affinity applications can import as a palette of spot colors. If you are only trying to get a few spot colors, Pantone Connect can enable that for you. Be warned that L*a*b* color values may become a charged feature in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapseed Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 On 1/18/2021 at 4:25 PM, VanessaS said: As I said, none of the alternatives for Linux meets my needs. I've tried all of those editors, I know Diolinux's patch as well. I've had the same conversation countless times throughout the years and every time people think they're suggesting me something new I haven't tried before. I'm not saying the applications available for Linux aren't good. They are great for many photographers. What I'm saying is, they are not suitable for **ME and MY work.** I'm not a photographer who offers photo sessions and deliver small digital images. I sell prints through an art gallery. I print, sell and work on the same images for many years. They must match perfectly, it doesn't matter if I've printed them today or 5 years ago. They must be exactly the same. Since I don't want to use Adobe products anymore, I will stick to Affinity, even though it's a pity they will not develop a Linux application. Maybe in the future there will be something I can use on Linux, but for now, that's not an option. I see now and since you really do need professional software to do your work then that leaves only two practical solutions - use Windows 8.1 or 10 that are both currently supported or use macOS on Apple products. I know that Apple computers are expensive and if Windows is less than satisfactory for you then I'd suggest trying out a Macbook or iMac at an Apple store or trying out a friend's Apple computer. I know of people who have bought refurbished Macs, etc. from reputable suppliers to lower the purchase cost and that has worked out well for them. In one case, a friend of mine used to have a Windows desktop PC and I'd be regularly helping her out with computer issues but she switched to a new iMac (and very nice it is too) and I haven't been called out once to assist her. Similarly, I only ever had one Linux (Ubuntu) request for help and that was solved. I think that says something about the stability and reliability of the Unix-like operating systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renzatic Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 If there's one thing I've come to notice during my time in Linux, it's how bad the font rendering is in Windows. I feel like a total nerd for nitpicking something like this, but hell, it's SO NICE having clear, clean text everywhere that doesn't look like it's padded in rainbow colored antialiasing. Snapseed, blackbird9, Bez Bezson and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeWa Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I really think it's a pity that Serif refuses to develop a Linux-version or even just making it work with wine. But: Thanks to the answers above I tried VivaDesigner out now and I really think it is quiet an astonishing alternative! I think I would even buy a copy - in the end we have to support companies that (still) develop native Linux software! Snapseed and Bez Bezson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bez Bezson Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, FeWa said: I really think it's a pity that Serif refuses to develop a Linux-version or even just making it work with wine. But: Thanks to the answers above I tried VivaDesigner out now and I really think it is quiet an astonishing alternative! I think I would even buy a copy - in the end we have to support companies that (still) develop native Linux software! Yep, it costs over seven times what Affinity Publisher does, but I'm seriously considering it too. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapseed Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 22 hours ago, FeWa said: I really think it's a pity that Serif refuses to develop a Linux-version or even just making it work with wine. But: Thanks to the answers above I tried VivaDesigner out now and I really think it is quiet an astonishing alternative! I think I would even buy a copy - in the end we have to support companies that (still) develop native Linux software! While I get that porting over the Affinity products isn't yet an economically viable option due to Linux's relatively small current market share, I don't think it is being unreasonable to ask the Serif Affinity team to have some initial informal discussions with the Codeweavers developers to see if it is possible to make the Affinity softwares run reasonably well with Crossover/Wine. The answer might still be 'No' but at least they will have tried. The Windows-only PhotoScape image editor does work well with Wine so much so that there's now an Ubuntu Snap version. If, for example, Affinity Photo also came in a bundled Snap, then I would have already bought it and it would already be running on my desktop PC. PS l should add that the PageStream desktop publishing software is also available for Linux. It has an old school interface a bit like Serif's own PagePlus software and l have not tried it out. zeknoss, blackbird9 and Bez Bezson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zer0aster Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) I would love a Linux version of Affinity apps, or a version of Wine that could load them. I am far too technologically promiscuous to say I would commit to Linux, but if I could reduce my reliance on macOS/Windows it would be a step in the right direction. But one of the reasons that this is so hard is that unlike with office document formats, there are really no standard formats for graphic source files. I know there are image file formats, but source file formats used by design applications are not readily transferable between suites. I guess a .psd file is as close as it gets, may be .svg for vectors, but certainly not much that is transferable for page layout. It amuses me that the reason we have fairly standard office file formats is actually the market dominance of Microsoft. On the face of it, very un-Linux. That Libreoffice and other office suites can hitch a ride (dare I say it?) on these ubiquitous formats means that Linux is now very viable, if these office apps are all you need. Not so graphic design. What chance Affinity file formats becoming open enough to be imported/exported by other software? Not great I guess. Edited February 13, 2021 by zer0aster Waffelo, wout, Bez Bezson and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray21 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Graphic design is currently the main reason for my Windows partition. Inkscape/Gimp/Krita are pretty capable and good enough for many jobs, but Affinity running on Linux be amazing. Bez Bezson, Snapseed, Renzatic and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andylarc Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Hi, im linux-windows user, but i use windows mostly for desing, i'll be very happy if Affinity apps running on Linux Bez Bezson, Renzatic, blackbird9 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderings Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 9:19 AM, zer0aster said: I would love a Linux version of Affinity apps, or a version of Wine that could load them. I am far too technologically promiscuous to say I would commit to Linux, but if I could reduce my reliance on macOS/Windows it would be a step in the right direction. But one of the reasons that this is so hard is that unlike with office document formats, there are really no standard formats for graphic source files. I know there are image file formats, but source file formats used by design applications are not readily transferable between suites. I guess a .psd file is as close as it gets, may be .svg for vectors, but certainly not much that is transferable for page layout. It amuses me that the reason we have fairly standard office file formats is actually the market dominance of Microsoft. On the face of it, very un-Linux. That Libreoffice and other office suites can hitch a ride (dare I say it?) on these ubiquitous formats means that Linux is now very viable, if these office apps are all you need. Not so graphic design. What chance Affinity file formats becoming open enough to be imported/exported by other software? Not great I guess. I would say there is a standard and that is Adobe. For page layout the standard is Indesign, for vector Illustrator and photos Photoshop. The vast majority of creative professionals are using Adobe (at least for print and publishing). I do not think there is any perfect conversion even among Office programs. I know in Microsoft Office word files can open differently for me then someone who sent me the Word file, which is why I always ask for a PDF as I will then get a file that looks how they see it on their end. Sure some are better then others but I think as things get more complex so do the issues with a standard file format that will work with multiple applications from different developers. Snapseed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wout Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I'm now almost three years on Linux. I have no plans to move back to macOS, and certainly not to Windows. At the moment, I'm getting by with Glimpse for Photo editing and Gravit for vector graphics. Both for which I pay (£75/year for Gravit and $10/month for Glimpse). At the time, I also paid for Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher, on both macOS and Windows. I really wouldn't mind paying for it again to get it on Linux. I would even pay for to get a working version of the apps on Wine. I know Serif isn't keen on to releasing a Linux version. But a bit of support to get it working on Wine would be very welcome. Bez Bezson, Snapseed, Waffelo and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelos Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I am waiting Affinity 😍 for Linux 😍 blackbird9, sethkoenig, Bez Bezson and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon1 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I find it a bit strange that Agriggio who is making ART ( a fork of Rawtherapee , with advanced local adjustment ) is doing all the job by developing the prog himself, and porting it to Linux. He's getting help from Gaaned92 with porting it to Windows and Carmelo_DrRaw porting it to Mac ... These guys is doing a heck of a good job..... https://bitbucket.org/agriggio/art/wiki/Home https://discuss.pixls.us/t/art-new-releases/16500 Bez Bezson, Snapseed and blackbird9 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artjourney Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 2:05 PM, wout said: I'm now almost three years on Linux. I have no plans to move back to macOS, and certainly not to Windows.... I started out with Windows, and switched to macOS, and now looking to switch to Linux for life. Haven't switch yet, but preparing and making plans to. I really like macOS but I have a feeling they will go evil in the future, so I’m jumping ship. Blender and Krita, two big apps for me and Linux supports it. Only Affinity is missing. Was hoping that I could use it via Wine or Crossover, but from what I'm reading on here it doesn't work. Right now I got all three Affinity apps for macOS, but looks like I will have to get the Windows versions for 2.0 when it’s out and dual boot it. OR keep my macbook and use it for Affinity. Tough choice... Bez Bezson, wout and Jorgen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I switched completely from MacOS to Linux 2 years ago. My reason was, that the hardware becomes more and more buggy (for such expensive hardware); (and more critical for me) the OS drops more and more open standards and try to engage a more strict proprietary ecosystem... Me as developer and designer is important to have a system that is fast, secure and customizable. But what I saw, that the quality of the OS becomes really bad after Steve Jobs dies - the new focus was only on mobile business (which brings the most profit for Apple); so they only put effort into iOS, but not on MacOS I think this is the reason why they push their own silicon and will move iPadOS to Macs in near future. This means, you have to install apps ONLY by app store which dictates the prices and can choose what apps will run on your Mac I really love to use Linux as my daily friend. It is so much easier to use nowadays; but the big players still did not migrate their tools to Linux (yet) Hope Serif and Adobe migrate their tools soon - MacOS becomes more and more less important to the market (now 3rd place of OS market share) and Linux is growing fast also in private sector... Snapseed, wout, Drawinz and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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