bowen192 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Can you change a shape type? For instance if I've created a circle, could I then change this to a square, thus keeping the same dimensions? If not I think this would be a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Hi, bowen192, It would be handy, but not as important as getting a blend or mesh warp tool. Myself, I'm satisfied w. being able to change polygons to circles via the roundness parameter, or via snapping, draw an irregular shape, like a call out, to match the bounds of another shape. There are snapping settings that will aid to place a new ellipse center in a recatnagle, and quickly draw our from there. Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Ben Posted September 12, 2017 Staff Share Posted September 12, 2017 We currently don't offer any way to change shape types, other than going from a Circle to a pie/donut (as those shapes are easily relatable). Other shapes, not so. Some shapes are projected into the original bounds, and others are based on a circle projected into the original bounds. Changing between the two shape types will not necessarily result in a shape with the same geometry extents. So, it's more predictable to drag out a new shape. Quote SerifLabs team - Affinity Developer Software engineer - Photographer - Guitarist - Philosopher iMac 27" Retina 5K (Late 2015), 4.0GHz i7, AMD Radeon R9 M395 MacBook (Early 2015), 1.3GHz Core M, Intel HD 5300 iPad Pro 10.5", 256GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 58 minutes ago, Ben said: We currently don't offer any way to change shape types, other than going from a Circle to a pie/donut (as those shapes are easily relatable). Other shapes, not so ... But many of the shapes are relatable to a circle (or more generally to an ellipse), right? Consider the attached AD file, with this layer structure: Each shape has the same bounding box dimensions, fits into the same circle, & has the same default center point. It is in no way a priority feature for me, but it would be cool if we could freely convert among them; or at least from a circle/ellipse to any of the others, in the same way we can now from circles/ellipses to pies/donuts. The Context toolbar could be simplified with a single "Convert" item with a popup menu of convertible shapes, so it would not be too wide to fit on smaller screens. relatable shape types.afdesign Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Ben said: We currently don't offer any way to change shape types, other than going from a Circle to a pie/donut (as those shapes are easily relatable). Other shapes, not so. Some shapes are projected into the original bounds, and others are based on a circle projected into the original bounds. Changing between the two shape types will not necessarily result in a shape with the same geometry extents. So, it's more predictable to drag out a new shape. In DrawPlus there is a dropdown list on the Context toolbar, allowing the user to switch from any QuickShape to any other QuickShape. The base box retains its original dimensions, and it doesn't matter if the bounding box changes: after all, even a simple star has a different bounding box if you change the number of points from 5 to 6. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Alfred said: after all, even a simple star has a different bounding box if you change the number of points from 5 to 6. ??? That does not happen in either AD or AP for me -- the size, shape, & default center of the bounding box remains the same for all of the shapes shown in my screenshot when the points, teeth, inner radii, or other adjustable parameters are changed. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 hours ago, R C-R said: ??? That does not happen in either AD or AP for me -- the size, shape, & default center of the bounding box remains the same for all of the shapes shown in my screenshot when the points, teeth, inner radii, or other adjustable parameters are changed. I suspect I wasn't clear enough about the distinction I made in my previous post: 4 hours ago, Alfred said: The base box retains its original dimensions, and it doesn't matter if the bounding box changes I wouldn't have been aware of the difference if it hadn't been for one of Ben's posts on the subject. When you drag out a shape while holding down the Shift key, you always get a square base box but you don't always get a square bounding box. The default Star shape has 5 points, with the top one touching the base box, and there are small gaps at the sides and a large gap at the bottom; when you make a copy of the shape and change the number of points to 6, the top and bottom points will both touch the base box but the gaps at the sides will get larger. If you select either shape and press the period key on your keyboard, you will see the bounding box, which is tight to the shape on all four sides. R C-R and Bri-Toon 2 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdenby Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Didn't know there was both a base and bounding box. Had assumed the base box was the bounding box, which would explain why it would be difficult to replace shapes that fit in the same base box, when the bounding box is different. Where to position/scale the the substitute shape? Quote iMac 27" Retina, c. 2015: OS X 10.11.5: 3.3 GHz I c-5: 32 Gb, AMD Radeon R9 M290 2048 Mb iPad 12.9" Retina, iOS 10, 512 Gb, Apple pencil Huion WH1409 tablet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, gdenby said: Didn't know there was both a base and bounding box. Neither did I ... & possibly neither did the documentation team. I may have missed it, but nowhere in the help topics can I find mention of either one, except in the Snapping topic, where (apparently) "bounding box" is used in the generic 'selection box' sense for either kind. "Selection box" does appear in a few topics like for the Move tool but no distinction is made about which type of box that might be. I also can't find any mention of pressing the period key to toggle between them, but that might also be something I missed. The Ui is also a bit vague about this, at least in the main toolbar "Arrange" options, where the six 'align' options give us alignment choices that include "Selection Bounds," avoiding the word "box" completely. 20 minutes ago, gdenby said: Had assumed the base box was the bounding box, which would explain why it would be difficult to replace shapes that fit in the same base box, when the bounding box is different. For all the shapes in my screenshot (plus the polygon, which I neglected to include), I think it should be easy enough if the size & default center of the base box is always used as the reference. From Alfred's comments, I gather that is how it works in DrawPlus. I admit I have not thought this through completely, but I think if there was a 'convert' feature, that is how I would like it to work, using base box references rather than bounding box ones. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bri-Toon Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Alfred said: I wouldn't have been aware of the difference if it hadn't been for one of Ben's posts on the subject. When you drag out a shape while holding down the Shift key, you always get a square base box but you don't always get a square bounding box. The default Star shape has 5 points, with the top one touching the base box, and there are small gaps at the sides and a large gap at the bottom; when you make a copy of the shape and change the number of points to 6, the top and bottom points will both touch the base box but the gaps at the sides will get larger. If you select either shape and press the period key on your keyboard, you will see the bounding box, which is tight to the shape on all four sides. It looks like a lot of us were unaware of this, but it makes sense. While I did notice the gap space in the bottom and sides of the star preset, I originally didn't understand why. There are also other shapes like the crescent shape that has gap space by default because it can be manipulated further into a circle to fill up the entire bounding box. So it appears that the gap space is a placeholder for the maximum size of any shape manipulation. Quote The website is still a work in progress. The "Comics" and "Shop" sections are not yet ready. Feel free to connect with me and let me know what you like or what can be improved. You can contact me here, on my contact page, YouTube channel, or Twitter account. Thanks and have a great day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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