R C-R Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Alfred said: But what is a circle, if not a regular polygon with an infinite number of sides? A circle is an idealized geometric abstraction, the collection of all points equidistant from a common point, but a point is not the same thing as a side -- a point exists in one dimension while a side must exist in two. That's why a collection of 2D Bezier curves, even if they are infinitely many of them, can only approximate a perfect Euclidean circle. As the Cut The Knot page says, any rigorous definition of a circle involves some theory of limits, which in more practical terms means our vector shapes can be perfect only to the extent resolution independence can be maintained. So while this is not a problem in the abstract vector (metric?) spaces of AD & similar apps, rendering those shapes with real world devices that are inherently limited to finite resolutions will always be to some extent problematic. In the final analysis, it all reduces to the same thing each of us has been saying in one way or another: perfection is unattainable so it is all about how much imperfection we can tolerate. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, R C-R said: a point is not the same thing as a side -- a point exists in one dimension while a side must exist in two You mentioned limits in your next paragraph. The limit, as the number of sides tends to infinity, of the length of each side is zero, surely? Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchshader Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Going round in circles now, think i reached my limit. Quote intel core i5, 16GB 128Gb ssd win10 Pro Huion new 1060plus. philips 272p 2560x1440px on intel HD2500 onboard graphics Razer Tartarus Chroma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Alfred said: The limit, as the number of sides tends to infinity, of the length of each side is zero, surely? Yes, but that limit can never actually be reached, which is why contemporary mathematical definitions of limits now rely on topological concepts like "nearness" & "neighborhoods." This is necessary because "infinity" is not a number or a metric, it is the idea that something is without end. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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