Hello Walt or anyone else, this is exactly what I was looking for but why can't I do this on AD for iPad? If I copy the object as drawn anywhere on the screen I can't paste in as artistic text. but if I create this on the desktop version (windows), where the procedure mentioned above does work, and import it into the iPad and copy (or cut for that matter) the symbol from the artistic text itself then I can paste it back, no problem. am I missing something? thanks!