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Hey Guys, I couldnt seem to find an answer on this....what is the upgrade pricing policy? I see the current price of the software is $39 and I am very interested, however it appears 1.6 is right around the corner. ARe upgrades free of charge or are they available at a discounted rate? I purchased lightroom outright and still unsure if that was the right move as opposed to paying monthly.

 

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Hi Fenster, 

 

Welcome to the Forums :)

 

Upgrades are free up until the next full version of the app for example from 1.9 to 2.0 (Note this doesn't mean you will have to pay after the 1.9 update there could be many more updates before version 2.0) You then have the choice to pay again for future updates or keep the version you have :) In terms of the actual price for this upgrade we don't have anything set in stone yet.

 

 As for a time frame for when you may be expected to upgrade bear in mind Affinity Designer has now been out on Mac since 2014 and we haven't charged for any updates yet so it could be a fair while :)

 

Thanks

C

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Would not the inverse be true?

The longer the app has been on the market, the more likely a new paid update

It was a demonstration of how long you could have to wait for a paid update,  Fenster asked about our pricing policy not Designer specifically   :)

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how long you could have to wait for a paid update

 

In all the years I've been a Serif customer, I've only ever had to pay for upgrades (i.e. new major versions like 2.0). Updates (i.e. point releases like 1.6) have always been free. :)

 

It will be interesting to see whether Serif decides to follow the example of The Omni Group so that they can offer upgrade pricing to existing customers. :unsure:


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Would not the inverse be true?

 ʇ,upןnoʍ ʇı ǝdou  :P

 

It will be interesting to see whether Serif decides to follow the example of The Omni Group so that they can offer upgrade pricing to existing customers. :unsure:

At our prices ???? geez.

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 ʇ,upןnoʍ ʇı ǝdou  :P

 

At our prices ???? geez.

Exactly … if the price stays as it is, I'm more than happy paying full price every couple of years for a new version (or simply stay at the current version, if I'm happy with what it does and don't want any awesome new features) :)

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Yeah, I really don't get how people are on the fence when it comes to buying Affinity Photo and/or Designer. Or how they could possibly be against paying full price for the next version of each app.

 

This is just my example of paying for Illustrator and the Photoshop/Lightroom plans. The Illustrator single app plan that I have costs me $21.19 a month. The Photoshop/Lightroom plan costs $10.69 a month. So, I pay $31.88 a month here in the USA, and that comes out to $382.56 a year.

 

Over 10 years that would be $3,825.60. 

 

Now, I took advantage of the introductory pricing that Serif offered on Designer, on Photo, on Photo for iPad, and as soon as Designer for iPad is available I will buy that too.

 

I paid $40 for Designer, $40 for Photo and $20 for Photo [iPad]. Say Designer [iPad] has introductory pricing of $20 too. That is $120.

 

Hypothetically say Serif has a new version for each of those apps once every 3 years and I upgrade to each app at the full price. I am looking at less than $450 for 10 years, compared to $3,825 for Adobe's apps over 10 years. And with Adobe I am probably never going to have an Illustrator that works on my iPad, never going to have a Photoshop that works on my iPad.

 

I am one of those Adobe users that has had problems with the Creative Cloud. I have had 3 different occasions where I couldn't start any of the apps and had to deal with the pain of getting it all to work again. Sometimes that took days. I even had an issue one time where Creative Cloud was interfering with my Backblaze backup cloud service, actually erasing files. CC can be great when it works, but can be a frustrating, maddening experience when it doesn't.

 

Anyway, back to the savings, $450 for Affinity, $3,800 for Adobe. If I can dump Adobe I pocket almost $3,400 over the course of 10 years. Even if I had to buy each Affinity app yearly, at full price, that still comes out to a savings of $2,200 over the course of 10 years compared to Adobe.

 

So, when I see people on the 'fence', hemming and hawing over deciding to buy Photo, or Designer, or the iPad versions, I just shake my head in disbelief!!

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The Pricing module of Serif is very attractive in my opinion. Although, I didn't know you have to pay for upgrades, I think that it's totally fair. You see, Serif is a company and just like every other company, it also has its expenses and we all know that software development isn't cheap either. If I have to pay a few bucks in like 3 - 4 years, I think it's reasonable.

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Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. I do think $39 cost seems very reasonable for software that seems to be very capable. The reason I hesitate is 1) If another version is right around the corner and would require a new license, I would likely wait to gain the new features. 2)  I purchased lightroom 6 outright, however I found that Adobe has provided updates to CC users but not standalone users. These are updates to the same version...just not available on the standalone version. When lightroom 7 comes out, I might be forced to purchase a CC license which would come with photoshop..... that makes me pause to see if the money is well spent on Affinity.

 

At this point, I think I am going to pull the trigger on Affinity because watching the training videos has me hooked. Currently using Gimp to do major edits after lightroom is kind of difficult, and Affinity looks like it will really help me.

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Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. I do think $39 cost seems very reasonable for software that seems to be very capable. The reason I hesitate is 1) If another version is right around the corner and would require a new license, I would likely wait to gain the new features. 2) I purchased lightroom 6 outright, however I found that Adobe has provided updates to CC users but not standalone users. These are updates to the same version...just not available on the standalone version. When lightroom 7 comes out, I might be forced to purchase a CC license which would come with photoshop..... that makes me pause to see if the money is well spent on Affinity.

 

At this point, I think I am going to pull the trigger on Affinity because watching the training videos has me hooked. Currently using Gimp to do major edits after lightroom is kind of difficult, and Affinity looks like it will really help me.

Both the Photo and the Designer are on version 1.5.x and as said above, users will only have to pay for upgrades i.e. next you have to pay for v2.0. I don't think that v2.0 would come out so fast. I think it'll take at least 2 years. However, this is just my speculation.

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In the case of this company and it's products we have the unique situation where the perpetual license costs far, far less that subscription from Adobe (I normally calculate a three year timespan for ROI, but here it's not even a few months!) of course not the former perpetual license from them and not even any update. They are so far below the prices of Adobe which makes it impossible to do sane comparisons! Buy it. Then buy it again when the next version comes out (or not, if the current one is good enough for you). End of story.

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Will there be a discount when owning the 1.X version to 2.0 update? That would be great for the current users when the wanna update, but have little money

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On 6/15/2019 at 9:31 AM, DeusNightFire said:

Will there be a discount when owning the 1.X version to 2.0 update? That would be great for the current users when the wanna update, but have little money

Why are you asking about the pricing of a hypothetical version that isn't on the roadmap and may never even be released?

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